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[Evang.Benincasa]

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sean did that.

Don’t you miss him?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Don’t you miss him?

Like flesh eating bacteria

[CalledOut238]

There is a scriptural remedy for those who have trespassed or who have been taken in a fault.

Matthew 18: 15 (KJV) Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

If I have shared this story before then forgive my redundancy. I was having a cookout with my wife and children in my private backyard wearing shorts. My wife informed me that we had forgotten the buns and asked if I could run down to the store. Without even thinking I dashed into the store and up picked some buns and went back home. Apparently, a visitor to our church had told a brother in the ministry that he had seen me in public wearing shorts. That he thought we taught against men wearing shorts in public. That good friend of mine and brother proceeded to tell varying saints in the church and then finally to the Pastor. I was confronted by my Pastor and I agreed it was a lack of good judgment on my part not to put on pants when running out. But it didn’t end there. I had to publicly apologize to the Pastor; and to the church, then was announced publicly that I was being removed from the platform for a period time for a punishment for this violation. I did not agree with this public shaming; because this did not line up with Mathew 18: 15-17 and caused my wife and children public shame. Was it my bad judgement since I was a representative of the ministry? Absolutely, but because of my public excoriation, my wife and children disdained the church’s treatment of me. And though I know it was my bad judgement, I believe that is why Christ outlined a detail remedy which we as saints should follow to avoid these type of corrections.

The irony of this story is that the brother who told all the saints was a good friend that I had helped win to the Lord. I was the one in the wintertime jumping up and down on the frozen lake, so he could be baptized that night. I was the one who worked with him; and another friend, in bible studies so they could understand this truth. If he would have adhered to the scriptural remedy of coming to me privately; then I would have went to the Pastor and discussed with him, so that he would not have felt betrayed in front of the saints in church. But then my Pastor compounded the issue by not following the prescribed restoration of one who had committed a ministerial infraction by making an example of me in public. I have always wondered how my life would have been if my brothers would have adhered to what our Lord teaches us when one makes a mistake. There have been those who have reached out to me and given me advice privately on AFF. And I am more than able to take correction when done in Love and in the correct manner. Publicly shaming one to give appearance that you are on a higher moral ground by castigating a brother in their fault is unbiblical. Galatians espouses us to correct those in a fault in the spirit of meekness.

Galatians 6:1 (KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another 5 For every man shall bear his own burden.6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. 10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

I have confessed my faults openly. And for brethren to continue to agitate knowing a brother’s fault is not helpful. It is like bringing beer to a picnic when your brother used to be an alcoholic. I am no hypocrite; for I know that this is only a chapter in my life, and the book Christ is writing within me is not finished. But I bear my own burdens; and know my faults intimately, without anyone pointing them out to me. I know I must give an account to my Savior and standalone before him for all my actions of both good and bad. My only plea will be my faith in his blood and word then trust in his mercy and grace for my redemption.

Selah

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

There is a scriptural remedy for those who have trespassed or who have been taken in a fault.

Matthew 18: 15 (KJV) Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

If I have shared this story before then forgive my redundancy. I was having a cookout with my wife and children in my private backyard wearing shorts. My wife informed me that we had forgotten the buns and asked if I could run down to the store. Without even thinking I dashed into the store and up picked some buns and went back home. Apparently, a visitor to our church had told a brother in the ministry that he had seen me in public wearing shorts. That he thought we taught against men wearing shorts in public. That good friend of mine and brother proceeded to tell varying saints in the church and then finally to the Pastor. I was confronted by my Pastor and I agreed it was a lack of good judgment on my part not to put on pants when running out. But it didn’t end there. I had to publicly apologize to the Pastor; and to the church, then was announced publicly that I was being removed from the platform for a period time for a punishment for this violation. I did not agree with this public shaming; because this did not line up with Mathew 18: 15-17 and caused my wife and children public shame. Was it my bad judgement since I was a representative of the ministry? Absolutely, but because of my public excoriation, my wife and children disdained the church’s treatment of me. And though I know it was my bad judgement, I believe that is why Christ outlined a detail remedy which we as saints should follow to avoid these type of corrections.

The irony of this story is that the brother who told all the saints was a good friend that I had helped win to the Lord. I was the one in the wintertime jumping up and down on the frozen lake, so he could be baptized that night. I was the one who worked with him; and another friend, in bible studies so they could understand this truth. If he would have adhered to the scriptural remedy of coming to me privately; then I would have went to the Pastor and discussed with him, so that he would not have felt betrayed in front of the saints in church. But then my Pastor compounded the issue by not following the prescribed restoration of one who had committed a ministerial infraction by making an example of me in public. I have always wondered how my life would have been if my brothers would have adhered to what our Lord teaches us when one makes a mistake. There have been those who have reached out to me and given me advice privately on AFF. And I am more than able to take correction when done in Love and in the correct manner. Publicly shaming one to give appearance that you are on a higher moral ground by castigating a brother in their fault is unbiblical. Galatians espouses us to correct those in a fault in the spirit of meekness.

Galatians 6:1 (KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another 5 For every man shall bear his own burden.6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. 10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

I have confessed my faults openly. And for brethren to continue to agitate knowing a brother’s fault is not helpful. It is like bringing beer to a picnic when your brother used to be an alcoholic. I am no hypocrite; for I know that this is only a chapter in my life, and the book Christ is writing within me is not finished. But I bear my own burdens; and know my faults intimately, without anyone pointing them out to me. I know I must give an account to my Savior and standalone before him for all my actions of both good and bad. My only plea will be my faith in his blood and word then trust in his mercy and grace for my redemption.

Selah

[n david]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

There is a scriptural remedy for those who have trespassed or who have been taken in a fault.

Matthew 18: 15 (KJV) Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

If I have shared this story before then forgive my redundancy. I was having a cookout with my wife and children in my private backyard wearing shorts. My wife informed me that we had forgotten the buns and asked if I could run down to the store. Without even thinking I dashed into the store and up picked some buns and went back home. Apparently, a visitor to our church had told a brother in the ministry that he had seen me in public wearing shorts. That he thought we taught against men wearing shorts in public. That good friend of mine and brother proceeded to tell varying saints in the church and then finally to the Pastor. I was confronted by my Pastor and I agreed it was a lack of good judgment on my part not to put on pants when running out. But it didn’t end there. I had to publicly apologize to the Pastor; and to the church, then was announced publicly that I was being removed from the platform for a period time for a punishment for this violation. I did not agree with this public shaming; because this did not line up with Mathew 18: 15-17 and caused my wife and children public shame. Was it my bad judgement since I was a representative of the ministry? Absolutely, but because of my public excoriation, my wife and children disdained the church’s treatment of me. And though I know it was my bad judgement, I believe that is why Christ outlined a detail remedy which we as saints should follow to avoid these type of corrections.

The irony of this story is that the brother who told all the saints was a good friend that I had helped win to the Lord. I was the one in the wintertime jumping up and down on the frozen lake, so he could be baptized that night. I was the one who worked with him; and another friend, in bible studies so they could understand this truth. If he would have adhered to the scriptural remedy of coming to me privately; then I would have went to the Pastor and discussed with him, so that he would not have felt betrayed in front of the saints in church. But then my Pastor compounded the issue by not following the prescribed restoration of one who had committed a ministerial infraction by making an example of me in public. I have always wondered how my life would have been if my brothers would have adhered to what our Lord teaches us when one makes a mistake. There have been those who have reached out to me and given me advice privately on AFF. And I am more than able to take correction when done in Love and in the correct manner. Publicly shaming one to give appearance that you are on a higher moral ground by castigating a brother in their fault is unbiblical. Galatians espouses us to correct those in a fault in the spirit of meekness.

Galatians 6:1 (KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another 5 For every man shall bear his own burden.6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. 10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

I have confessed my faults openly. And for brethren to continue to agitate knowing a brother’s fault is not helpful. It is like bringing beer to a picnic when your brother used to be an alcoholic. I am no hypocrite; for I know that this is only a chapter in my life, and the book Christ is writing within me is not finished. But I bear my own burdens; and know my faults intimately, without anyone pointing them out to me. I know I must give an account to my Savior and standalone before him for all my actions of both good and bad. My only plea will be my faith in his blood and word then trust in his mercy and grace for my redemption.

Selah

Empty words, when measured against the posts you've made the past few weeks.

Practice what you preach; then, if you must, create a thread about it.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by n david

Empty words, when measured against the posts you've made the past few weeks.

Practice what you preach; then, if you must, create a thread about it.

Find a post of mine that was not a rebuttal or retaliatory towards me first. I have responded back to those being disrespectful: Eye for Eye and Tooth for Tooth. I have admitted my wrong yet you and others obfuscate your culpableness of your own venomous posts attacking my character. Scriptures are not empty words and my experience is truthful. You sound like you have an empty heart with no forgiveness which is caustic to your own self.

Matthew 6:14 (KJV) For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Bitterness is a cancer to the soul and persecuting others flaws will not bring you solace. If it makes you feel morally superior to denigrate a brothers' weakness then you may want to reflect on your own heart before giving advice to others. You may win points with your tag team buddies here on AFF with disparaging and dismissive posts, but you will not win any points with our Heavenly Father. I have already forgiven everyone here on this board who has attacked me, but not for yours or their approval, for the welfare of my own soul. I listen to my conscious of my inner man which is the best preacher our Heavenly Father has given each of us. Forgiving me is on you N David and not me.

Philippians 2:2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. 3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

Selah

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

I listen to my conscious of my inner man which is the best preacher our Heavenly Father has given each of us.

Selah

The Word should be the voice to which we listen.
If our "inner voice" does not line up with the Word, it is from the enemy.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

I have confessed my faults openly. And for brethren to continue to agitate knowing a brother’s fault is not helpful. It is like bringing beer to a picnic when your brother used to be an alcoholic. I am no hypocrite; for I know that this is only a chapter in my life, and the book Christ is writing within me is not finished. But I bear my own burdens; and know my faults intimately, without anyone pointing them out to me. I know I must give an account to my Savior and standalone before him for all my actions of both good and bad. My only plea will be my faith in his blood and word then trust in his mercy and grace for my redemption.

Selah

I'm cheering you on, every day is a new day with a new beginning.

[n david]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

Find a post of mine that was not a rebuttal or retaliatory towards me first. I have responded back to those being disrespectful: Eye for Eye and Tooth for Tooth.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Yea and Amen.