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06-04-2018, 07:48 PM
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Do you believe there will be "great(est) revival" at some point in the near (or far) future?
If so, will you prove it from Scripture?
If not, please likewise prove the case from Scripture.
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I definitely believe there will be a great revival before Jesus returns, there has to be an unspotted and unblemished bride, a glorious church without spot, wrinkle, or blemish.
Also Revelation 7:9, 13-14
"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,"
"Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “ These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
I believe that before the great tribulation occurs, many will come into the kingdom of God. The bible does not teach a Pre-trib rapture, so I don't believe in that.
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Matthew 24:13-14 "But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
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06-04-2018, 07:58 PM
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
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Originally Posted by TyronePalmer
I definitely believe there will be a great revival before Jesus returns, there has to be an unspotted and unblemished bride, a glorious church without spot, wrinkle, or blemish.
Also Revelation 7:9, 13-14
"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,"
"Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “ These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
I believe that before the great tribulation occurs, many will come into the kingdom of God. The bible does not teach a Pre-trib rapture, so I don't believe in that.
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06-04-2018, 08:18 PM
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OneLordOneFaithOneBaptism
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
Hey Mike!
Also there is a William Seymour and Charles Parham prophecy.
"Tommy Welchel on William Seymour and Charles Parham’s 100-Year Prophecy:
On the same day in 1909, hundreds of miles apart, they both prophesied God’s visible shekina glory would return to earth after 100 years, but this time everywhere!"
I remember reading about the Azusa street revival and first hand eyewitnesses testified and said the Shekina glory, the glory cloud of God's presence was visible to everyone and so thick that children could play hide and seek in it!
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Matthew 24:13-14 "But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
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06-04-2018, 09:48 PM
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
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Originally Posted by TyronePalmer
Hey Mike!
Also there is a William Seymour and Charles Parham prophecy.
"Tommy Welchel on William Seymour and Charles Parham’s 100-Year Prophecy:
On the same day in 1909, hundreds of miles apart, they both prophesied God’s visible shekina glory would return to earth after 100 years, but this time everywhere!"
I remember reading about the Azusa street revival and first hand eyewitnesses testified and said the Shekina glory, the glory cloud of God's presence was visible to everyone and so thick that children could play hide and seek in it!
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I recall a very popular evangelist preaching that God was going to pour out his Spirit and sinners would all of a sudden start dancing and speaking in tongues in the streets and grocery stores.
I’m a believer in revival. If I didn’t believe in revival I would not pray, fast, knock on doors or teach Bible studies.
I believe in revival but i simply don’t believe in many of these prophesies.
Pentecost has too long mistaken gullibility for faith.
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06-04-2018, 10:58 PM
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
The Revival I believe in is a revival to perfection. Our calling is to be like Christ. Thats what he expects in a people. Its a message almost entirely rejected nowadays. And yet while modern Preachers contend sin is normal God has always opposed those who continue in it.
I cant think of one Preacher today that seems like Jesus. Or even an Apostle. In the real end time such ministries will come forth. They will teach the foundation doctrine of Christ but then will birth a vision in the people of being like Jesus. Of being a bride to the bridegroom.
Of coming to the full stature of Jesus.
People will get a vision of the coming kingdom of God where Christ will overthrow the kingdoms (governments) of men and set up his own kingdom where men will submit to his kingship yes even the groaning creation will burst forth into the liberty of the children of God.
Saints today need vision. To see more than going to Church twice a week and listening to sermons. They need to realize Gods purpose in saving them includes training them to be kings and priests in his coming kingdom.
When saints begin to get a vision there will be revival.
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06-05-2018, 12:19 AM
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
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Originally Posted by consapente89
I recall a very popular evangelist preaching that God was going to pour out his Spirit and sinners would all of a sudden start dancing and speaking in tongues in the streets and grocery stores.
I’m a believer in revival. If I didn’t believe in revival I would not pray, fast, knock on doors or teach Bible studies.
I believe in revival but i simply don’t believe in many of these prophesies.
Pentecost has too long mistaken gullibility for faith.
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06-05-2018, 02:08 AM
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This is still that!
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
The Revival I believe in is a revival to perfection. Our calling is to be like Christ. Thats what he expects in a people. Its a message almost entirely rejected nowadays. And yet while modern Preachers contend sin is normal God has always opposed those who continue in it.
I cant think of one Preacher today that seems like Jesus. Or even an Apostle. In the real end time such ministries will come forth. They will teach the foundation doctrine of Christ but then will birth a vision in the people of being like Jesus. Of being a bride to the bridegroom.
Of coming to the full stature of Jesus.
People will get a vision of the coming kingdom of God where Christ will overthrow the kingdoms (governments) of men and set up his own kingdom where men will submit to his kingship yes even the groaning creation will burst forth into the liberty of the children of God.
Saints today need vision. To see more than going to Church twice a week and listening to sermons. They need to realize Gods purpose in saving them includes training them to be kings and priests in his coming kingdom.
When saints begin to get a vision there will be revival.
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Brother Mike, do you feel like there are no saved people including preachers today?
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All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. ~Tolkien
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06-05-2018, 02:41 AM
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
So where is the documentation about the Parham/Seymour prophecy ? 1909 sounds right.
Is this just a story ? Or did Seymour or Parham write about it ??
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06-05-2018, 02:46 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Zion aka TEXAS
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
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Originally Posted by TyronePalmer
Hey Mike!
Also there is a William Seymour and Charles Parham prophecy.
"Tommy Welchel on William Seymour and Charles Parham’s 100-Year Prophecy:
On the same day in 1909, hundreds of miles apart, they both prophesied God’s visible shekina glory would return to earth after 100 years, but this time everywhere!"
I remember reading about the Azusa street revival and first hand eyewitnesses testified and said the Shekina glory, the glory cloud of God's presence was visible to everyone and so thick that children could play hide and seek in it!
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For some reason I can't picture little kids playing hide and seek in the Cloudy Pillar of Fire at Sinai, or during the dedication of the Temple...
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06-05-2018, 02:55 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: End Time Revival? Prove it...
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
I cant think of one Preacher today that seems like Jesus. Or even an Apostle. In the real end time such ministries will come forth.
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Do you have scripture that would describe any of this, as an "end time restoration of ministries after so long time of failure/weakness"?
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They will teach the foundation doctrine of Christ but then will birth a vision in the people of being like Jesus. Of being a bride to the bridegroom.
Of coming to the full stature of Jesus.
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You don't think there are any Christians who want to be like Jesus? Who desire to be a faithful bride to Christ? Of being mature in the Lord?
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People will get a vision of the coming kingdom of God where Christ will overthrow the kingdoms (governments) of men and set up his own kingdom where men will submit to his kingship yes even the groaning creation will burst forth into the liberty of the children of God.
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You don't think anybody has this "vision" already?
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Saints today need vision. To see more than going to Church twice a week and listening to sermons. They need to realize Gods purpose in saving them includes training them to be kings and priests in his coming kingdom.
When saints begin to get a vision there will be revival.
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What kind of vision? Do you mean like this?
Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.
(Proverbs 29:18)
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