More over-reacting to the "Light Doctrine"

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Originalist

It just cracks me up when a guy like Lee Stoneking will claim that the prayers of Trinitarians have no power, even though those prayers are prayed in the name of Jesus.

The Lord used Trinitarians to assemble the very canon that Christians call sacred.

Some of us bash Trinitarians and sentence them to hell in the name of the same canon that God used Trinitarians to hand down to us in the first place!

Looking back on much of what I have seen and heard, I trust God to be a God of Grace and kindness to everyone I've EVER dealt with. Because we ALL need His Grace and kindness-- even those of us who have cracked the DaVinci Code, the secret of Cain's wife and all of the mysteries of the Bible that an unlearned guy like me just takes on FAITH value.

We all need His Grace and kindness.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If one honestly reviews Christian history they have to come to the realization that the Apostolic Pentecostal churches are the revival that the Reformers, Protestants, etc. prayed for.

I disagree.

I think the Azusa Street revival and there are other revivals that happened too that could be the answer to the prayers of the Christians before us.

All of the division that happened that caused the Azusa Street revival to end was not what anyone was praying for.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I completely understand.

That's one of the things about the institutional church I don't like. It's a system built to preserve itself; it's power, assets, and money. It's a business. And when you have a product, you have to claim that competing products are insufficient compared to your own.

If one honestly reviews Christian history they have to come to the realization that the Apostolic Pentecostal churches are the revival that the Reformers, Protestants, etc. prayed for.

Good post. I totally agree. This is why I refer to the Reformers and those who came later as "Apostolic Forerunners".

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The Lord used Trinitarians to assemble the very canon that Christians call sacred.

Some of us bash Trinitarians and sentence them to hell in the name of the same canon that God used Trinitarians to hand down to us in the first place!

Looking back on much of what I have seen and heard, I trust God to be a God of Grace and kindness to everyone I've EVER dealt with. Because we ALL need His Grace and kindness-- even those of us who have cracked the DaVinci Code, the secret of Cain's wife and all of the mysteries of the Bible that an unlearned guy like me just takes on FAITH value.

We all need His Grace and kindness.

Amen.

[Michael The Disciple]

Also keep in mind that Oneness and Acts 2:38 is not all there is to "the truth". What about the rest of the foundation teachings of Jesus? What about the sermon on the mount?

Can Apostolics preach Oneness and Acts 2:38.....and then...teach error on other things and expect that THEY should enter the Kingdom?

Will the "light doctrine" have to come into play for them to miss Hell?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Also keep in mind that Oneness and Acts 2:38 is not all there is to "the truth". What about the rest of the foundation teachings of Jesus? What about the sermon on the mount?

Can Apostolics preach Oneness and Acts 2:38.....and then...teach error on other things and expect that THEY should enter the Kingdom?

Will the "light doctrine" have to come into play for them to miss Hell?

There's a "like" button around here, somewhere... I just know it...

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The Lord used Trinitarians to assemble the very canon that Christians call sacred.

That is incorrect. The NT writings were recognized as authentic Scripture by the original church before trinitarianism was settled as "orthodoxy" at Nicaea.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Also keep in mind that Oneness and Acts 2:38 is not all there is to "the truth". What about the rest of the foundation teachings of Jesus? What about the sermon on the mount?

Can Apostolics preach Oneness and Acts 2:38.....and then...teach error on other things and expect that THEY should enter the Kingdom?

Will the "light doctrine" have to come into play for them to miss Hell?

Like tithing?.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Like tithing?.

That might be one to consider. I heard one Apostolic Evangelist say if you shorted God 1 penny on your tithes you would go to Hell!

But that is a minor false doctrine compared to say, the second coming. Teaching that saints will not go through the great tribulation. Another would be the false teaching of the immortal soul. Another might be teaching that men will burn for BILLIONS of years.....and then....the suffering is just getting started.

How about Apostolics teaching that we cannot consistently overcome sin? Rather they say we cannot EVER say we have no sin in our lives?

Will God be merciful to those who teach these doctrines that Jesus Christ opposes?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Esaias

That is incorrect. The NT writings were recognized as authentic Scripture by the original church before trinitarianism was settled as "orthodoxy" at Nicaea.

Uh, my sources seem to indicate otherwise.