Did Russians Hack the Election?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

What most Americans don't really realize is that this is considered an act of cyberwar regardless of who won or lost the election.

If it was the Russians, they were probably trying to prevent WW3 by the election of a post-menopausal maniac.

[jfrog]

Aquila, thanks for ignoring everything I wrote. Yes the Russians hacked us along with many other major governments. So why the focus on the Russians instead of everyone else?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Aquila, thanks for ignoring everything I wrote. Yes the Russians hacked us along with many other major governments. So why the focus on the Russians instead of everyone else?

He's a democrat, following their tired old standard talking points.

Apparently, some folks connected with the US intel community believe it was some one or some several at NSA who leaked the emails.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fo...rticle/2598282

http://www.newsmax.com/AndrewNapolit.../04/id/742111/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/...nc-really.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/...on-emails.html

From the last link:

"Today, the NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, who managed six thousand NSA employees, the 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency and the NSA’s best-ever analyst and code-breaker, who mapped out the Soviet command-and-control structure before anyone else knew how, and so predicted Soviet invasions before they happened (“in the 1970s, he decrypted the Soviet Union’s command system, which provided the US and its allies with real-time surveillance of all Soviet troop movements and Russian atomic weapons”) – told Washington’s Blog:

My vote all along has been on an insider passing all these emails to Wikileaks.

If it were the Russians, NSA would have a trace route to them and not equivocate on who did it. It’s like using “Trace Route” to map the path of all the packets on the network. In the program Treasuremap NSA has hundreds of trace route programs embedded in switches in Europe and hundreds more around the world. So, this set-up should have detected where the packets went and when they went there."

[Originalist]

First we were told not to believe fake stories planted by Russia about election fraud. This tells me that the Dems did indeed try to steal the election and that Russian intelligence was on to them. Now the Dems are WANTING us to believe Russia stole the election....


http://time.com/4539904/fake-voter-f...-hack-warning/

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

What most Americans don't really realize is that this is considered an act of cyberwar regardless of who won or lost the election.

It's amazing how hawkish Democrats have become since obama took office.

Sen McCaskill also said over the weekend that any Russian hacking should be considered an act of warfare.

Why are Democrats banging the drums of war so hard against Russia?

Months ago there were rumors that Putin was going to nationalize the Central Bank of Russia, which could be part of the reason the administration and Hillary want to take a hard line against them.

But it's crazy how Democrats have suddenly become tough guys who want to start a war with Putin.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

My vote all along has been on an insider passing all these emails to Wikileaks.

I thought that was well known. I've read many tweets from Wikileaks over the last year which continue to deny any Russia connection, and state what they release is what is given to them from people on the inside.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

It's amazing how hawkish Democrats have become since obama took office.

Sen McCaskill also said over the weekend that any Russian hacking should be considered an act of warfare.

Why are Democrats -- liberals, even -- banging the drums of war so hard against Russia?

Months ago there were rumors that Putin was going to nationalize the Central Bank of Russia, which could be part of the reason the administration and Hillary want to take a hard line against them.

But it's crazy how Democrats have suddenly become tough guys who want to start a war with Putin.

Indeed. What a switch from when they aided the KGB against Regan during the Soviet era.

[n david]

I don't trust the Russians for anything. I don't want war with them, but I do not believe they are friends which can be trusted. They are and should continue to be viewed as adversaries. That isn't to say we shouldn't try to have talks with them and work together when possible. But any thought of Russia as an ally or friend, or any trust of Russia is deeply naïve and dangerous.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

I don't trust the Russians for anything. I don't want war with them, but I do not believe they are friends which can be trusted. They are and should continue to be viewed as adversaries. That isn't to say we shouldn't try to have talks with them and work together when possible. But any thought of Russia as an ally or friend, or any trust of Russia is deeply naïve and dangerous.

Anyone with even a slight knowledge of the history of Russia would agree with you. One can gain Russia's respect, but never their friendship.

[Birddog]

What President Most Grand Potentate Trump should do is ask.....

"With all your power and money that they have had the last eight years, why couldn't you stop them?"

This is a massive impact against Obama not Trump!