Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

He has appointed white supremacists,

No he hasn't. Please stop putting me in the position of having to defend Trump.

Originally Posted by Aquila

he has white power groups celebrating all over the nation.

And?

Originally Posted by Aquila

His positions are fascist.

Specifically?

Originally Posted by Aquila

He's a Nazi. Nothing can change that.

No, he's not. Aquila, would you stop delving into hyperbole? You're not doing yourself any good.

And STOP MAKING ME DEFEND TRUMP!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

No he hasn't. Please stop putting me in the position of having to defend Trump.

Here's the interesting fact. You're CHOOSING to defend him. I'm not forcing you to do anything. The man's a Nazi. Choose not to defend a Nazi, and we're good. Even if you disagree with me here and there on various details.

[Aquila]

Trump was assisted throughout his Presidential campaign by Russia (they will expect favors in return).
Trump praises Russia and known fascist dictator Putin repeatedly.
Trump has tons of money invested in Russia.
Trump refuses to release his tax returns which would show how deep these investments go.
Trump invites more hacking by Russia, instead of denouncing it fervently and promising an American response to such criminal acts.
Trump supports stop and frisk gun grabs.
Trump asked about using nuclear weapons regarding regional issues three times in a 30 minute security briefing.
Trump supports isolationist trade policies.
Trump met with the heads of media to threaten them should they wish to continue reporting anything negative about him.
Trump has appointed an Alt-Right nationalist to Chief Strategist.
Trump supports a national registry of all Muslim citizens.
Trump has appointed men who support internment camps for Muslims.
Trump supports revoking citizenship to flag burners.
Trump supports the creation of a special department with the authority to go door to door to find illegal immigrants and deport them.
Trump supports building a Berlin style wall across our Southern boarder.
Trump does not support the NATO Alliance.

If the man openly supported death camps, he'd score 100% on his NAZI admissions testing.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Trump has appointed Alt-Right, white nationalist, Steve Bannon to Chief Strategist. Trump has white power groups celebrating all over the nation. Trump's positions are fascist. He's a Nazi. If Trump isn't a Nazi, he's the biggest buffoon to ever win an election because he's walking headlong into surrounding himself with nationalists and right-wing extremists without knowing. Maybe I'm giving Trump too much credit, but I think he knows what he's doing. That makes him a Nazi. And nothing can change that.

No one can defend appointing trash like Steven Bannon to anything, unless it is the ash heap of history.

Do you support the likes of Steve Bannon? Or are you going to draw a line in the sand and call a duck a duck?

This is lining up to be the most ultra-right wing regime to ever assume power in the United States. It's our DUTY to denounce it and call a spade a spade. This is as close as you can come to having a Nazi take over without actual self-professed, German speaking, Nazis actually taking over.

Name something Steve Bannon has done which proves your claims. Consult your liberal rags - HuffPo, DailyBeast, Vox, etc - then post something Bannon has actually done which proves your claim that he's an alt-right, white nationalist trash.

As far as Trump is concerned, I don't know what to say. He's not a nice guy, that's for sure. But he's not a Nazi, he's not a racist, nor is he surrounding himself with such.

Take a breath and ease off the ledge. Breathe, Aquila. Deep breaths. Wooooosaaaaaahhhhhhh.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Trump supports the creation of a special department with the authority to go door to door to find illegal immigrants and deport them.

Please post your source on this. I've heard this before and have yet to find a liberal who can actually bring a source.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Trump praises Russia and known fascist dictator Putin repeatedly.
Trump refuses to release his tax returns
Trump supports revoking citizenship to flag burners.

Trump has also praised Communist Chinese leaders for their brutal crackdown on Tiananmen Square. He's praised several tyrants and dictators for their "strong" leadership.

Trump not only supports revoking citizenship to first amendment flag burners, but wants to throw them in jail.

Trump also wishes to restrict free press by allowing the press to be sued by Trump for printing any "nasty" things about him.

Look, there are things Trump has said and things which he believes as policy which are incredibly disturbing; things which should be opposed if he continues them after being sworn in as POTUS.

But calling him a Nazi and fascist and posting claims which aren't true is counterproductive.

We have no proof Trump has investments in Russia. We have no proof his tax returns show those investments.

Trump is not making a registry of all Muslim citizens, nor is he going to create internment camps for them. (That's as crazy as the Alex Jones crowd who claimed obama would be rounding people up in FEMA camps after obama was first elected.)

I'm done with my defense of Trump for today.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's the interesting fact. You're CHOOSING to defend him. I'm not forcing you to do anything. The man's a Nazi. Choose not to defend a Nazi, and we're good. Even if you disagree with me here and there on various details.

You're right, I'm choosing to because you're posting this garbage without a single shred of evidence. Being conservative means holding to consistent principles, including defending someone I don't even like, when someone posts lies about him.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jito463

You're right, I'm choosing to because you're posting this garbage without a single shred of evidence. Being conservative means holding to consistent principles, including defending someone I don't even like, when someone posts lies about him.

[n david]

So this thread just became interesting.... Thanks, Aquila!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

So this thread just became interesting.... Thanks, Aquila!