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Old 07-08-2016, 08:48 PM
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Hot summer?

Drink water, drive on.
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LOL sure. Meanwhile the patriot act and two unlawful wars were started under Bush Jr.


The Patriot Act was passed by Congress. Both wars were authorized by Congress. What exactly is the issue here?

By the way, there's no "Bush Jr.". There's George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush.
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:12 PM
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The Patriot Act was passed by Congress. Both wars were authorized by Congress. What exactly is the issue here?

By the way, there's no "Bush Jr.". There's George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush.
Also, many Democrats voted for the war.

The Patriot Act was a massive mistake though. Wish it never had passed.
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Also, many Democrats voted for the war.

The Patriot Act was a massive mistake though. Wish it never had passed.
Actually, the original intent of the Patriot Act wasn't really a problem. It only allowed for electronically monitoring and for detaining (e.g. Gitmo) of non-citizens. It did not apply to US citizens. The later expansions of it was the real problem.
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Actually, the original intent of the Patriot Act wasn't really a problem. It only allowed for electronically monitoring and for detaining (e.g. Gitmo) of non-citizens. It did not apply to US citizens. The later expansions of it was the real problem.
Just like "the income tax will only be for the very rich" or "income tax withholding will only be for foreigners working in the US" and "SSNs will only be used for social security purposes"?
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:24 AM
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Guess we'll soon find out if this Valerie Jarrett and Deray conversation was real or not.

RNC begins today.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:27 AM
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Honestly, I hope it's not true. I'd love for this to be proven nothing but a crackpot conspiracy theory. I just don't put it above this lawless, dictator wanna-be.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:34 AM
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Dud.

Nothing happened. Arrest total was 24 during the convention, which is incredibly low for this kind of an event.
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:18 PM
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That's good. Of course, there's still the DNC, heh.
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Just like "the income tax will only be for the very rich" or "income tax withholding will only be for foreigners working in the US" and "SSNs will only be used for social security purposes"?
exactly
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