Where Was The Church In Babylon located ?

[mfblume]

As a side note, I have photos opf actual Babylon taht a man in the militrary sent me. There are the ruins from ancicent Babylon and some rebuilding there that Hussein made. The pics are relatively rare, since no one is allowed there now.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

The church that is in Babylon ,elected together with you ,saluteth you ; and so doth Marcus my son. 1 Peter 4:13
Where was this church in Babylon located ?
Rome Or Jerusalem or Babylon by the Euphrates ,Or does this mean the church that was under Imperial Roman govt ?
Where was the church In Babylon located ?

on Main Street?

BTW I saluteth you

I believe the verse is 1Peter 5:13

30 sn Most scholars understand Babylon here to be a figurative reference to Rome. Although in the OT the city of Babylon in Mesopotamia was the seat of tremendous power (2Ki_24-25; Isaiah 39; Jeremiah 25), by the time of the NT what was left was an insignificant town, and there is no tradition in Christian history that Peter ever visited there. On the other hand, Christian tradition connects Peter with the church in Rome, and many interpreters think other references to Babylon in the NT refer to Rome as well (Rev_14:8; Rev_16:19; Rev_17:5; Rev_18:2; Rev_18:10; Rev_18:21). Thus it is likely Peter was referring to Rome here.

My question is, why would Peter already be calling Rome Babylon and if so and Catholics believe Peter went there and this adds fuel to the fire what does that say of Rome now considering Revelation?

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

The church that is in Babylon ,elected together with you ,saluteth you ; and so doth Marcus my son. 1 Peter 4:13
Where was this church in Babylon located ?
Rome Or Jerusalem or Babylon by the Euphrates ,Or does this mean the church that was under Imperial Roman govt ?
Where was the church In Babylon located ?

There was still a significant Jewish community in what used to be Babylon (since not all the Jews chose to return from Babylonian exile) and the only reasonable answer is that Peter was writing from there. There is no basis for Babylon being used as code word for either Jerusalem or Rome.

[Coonskinner]

Babylon.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Chan

There was still a significant Jewish community in what used to be Babylon (since not all the Jews chose to return from Babylonian exile) and the only reasonable answer is that Peter was writing from there. There is no basis for Babylon being used as code word for either Jerusalem or Rome.

God tells his people to get out of Babylon in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 51:4 Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, and they that are thrust through in her streets. 5 For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel. 6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.

If you read Jeremiah 50-52, you will see God is pronouncing judgements on Bablylon, the city, and warns his people to leave and states Babylon will be like Sodom and Gomorrah if you take a literal reading of this passage.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Babylon.

Sure it wasn't Tripoli?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by mfblume

As a side note, I have photos opf actual Babylon taht a man in the militrary sent me. There are the ruins from ancicent Babylon and some rebuilding there that Hussein made. The pics are relatively rare, since no one is allowed there now.

Sounds like they would be very interesting to see.

Originally Posted by mizpeh

God tells his people to get out of Babylon in Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 51:4 Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, and they that are thrust through in her streets. 5 For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel. 6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.

If you read Jeremiah 50-52, you will see God is pronouncing judgements on Bablylon, the city, and warns his people to leave and states Babylon will be like Sodom and Gomorrah if you take a literal reading of this passage.

But they didn't all leave and it's not clear that this prophecy was fulfilled when the Chaldeans or the Medes and Persians conquered the Babylonian Empire.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Chan

But they didn't all leave and it's not clear that this prophecy was fulfilled when the Chaldeans or the Medes and Persians conquered the Babylonian Empire.

Have you read Jeremiah chapt 50-51?

Jer 51:11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.

Jeremiah 51:27 Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers. 28 Prepare against her the nations with the kings of the Medes, the captains thereof, and all the rulers thereof, and all the land of his dominion. 29 And the land shall tremble and sorrow: for every purpose of the LORD shall be performed against Babylon, to make the land of Babylon a desolation without an inhabitant.

If you don't believe these verses were fulfilled at that time, when do you think they will be fulfilled?

[Sam]

St. Louis, MO ????