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Old 05-11-2013, 05:25 AM
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Re: Benghazi Smoking Gun???

very simple bam had his "mission accomplished" moment when he said al queda was defeated, and instead of manning up to it as a terrorist attack, tried to cover it up and went to bed instead of worrying about an ambassador being killed ,just collateral damage to him,outright lies, no spinning and now the wh press corp is wild about it becuse they were lied to and are still being lied to.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:30 AM
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I'd say within 10-14 days it's all going to be exposed, including evidence that completely incriminates POTUS. When that happens, the only way the press won't be able to "make it go away" by ignoring it will be for the House to open impeachment hearings. Yes, the House leadership will have to be strong. They will be attacked like never before.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:07 AM
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I'd say within 10-14 days it's all going to be exposed, including evidence that completely incriminates POTUS. When that happens, the only way the press won't be able to "make it go away" by ignoring it will be for the House to open impeachment hearings. Yes, the House leadership will have to be strong. They will be attacked like never before.
How'd you like to be the WH Press Secretary or POTUS Chief of Staff about now?
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:28 AM
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But Paul pushed this theory again this week on CNN. "I’ve actually always suspected that, although I have no evidence, that maybe we were facilitating arms leaving Libya going through Turkey into Syria," Paul said.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...looking/65092/
When he makes this statement, he is furthering the narrative without laying down his final judgment. We all know the time frame of the 400 ton cargo ship.

These questions remain to be answered. What went wrong that caused Ambassador Stevens to be killed? A botched kidnapping regarding the blind Shiek held in the compound, gun running gone bad, or did they not like that Stevens was gay? Why wasn't Hillary interested in asking Hicks the cause of the attack when she called him at 2:00am? My guess would be she already knew what was going on. She needs a subpoena handed to her.

I don't have any hopes of finding out the answers. All we will probably get is Hillary screaming, "What difference, at this point, does it make? Our job is to figure out what happened.. (pounding table)...and do everything we can to prevent it from happening again."

Given the time frame I laid out to you, common knowledge, her ranting is just bogus. I shudder to think of that woman being in the White House.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:23 AM
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Whistleblower: Troops Could Have Been in Benghazi in Time
State Department official disputes key portions of Obama administration’s Benghazi timeline
The U.S. military could have responded to the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi as early as 1:45 a.m. on the day of the attack, according to a deputy of slain Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

Gregory Hicks, the highest-ranking State Department official at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli on the night of the attack, told Congress that he was informed by the U.S. defense attaché at around 10:45 a.m. on the night of the attack that American forces could be on site in Benghazi within two to three hours.
http://freebeacon.com/whistleblower-...ghazi-in-time/



From a transcript of Hicks testimony:
With that knowledge, I called the operations center at the State Department, approximately 10 p.m. to report the attack and what we were doing to respond to it...

I called again to Washington to report that these -- actions had been commenced. Over the night we -- over that night, that is basically how our team operated. I was talking to the government of -- of Libya, reporting to the State -- State Department through the operations center, and also staying in touch with the annex chief about what was going on.

I also discussed with the annex chief about mobilizing a Tripoli response team, and we agreed that we would move forward with a -- chartering a plane from Tripoli to fly a response team to Benghazi to provide additional reinforcements. The defense attache was also reporting through his chain of command, back to AFRICOM and to the joint staff here in Washington about what was going on in the country...

the attack unfolded in four phases or the night unfolded in four phases. The first phase was the attack on our consulate... the consulate was invaded...

The response team from from the annex in Benghazi, six individuals, drove the attackers out of our compound, and secured it temporarily. There have been estimates as high as 60 attackers were in the compound at one particular time...

it was noticed that a second wave of attackers was coming to attack the facility...

the annex team also withdrew from the facility and the second wave of attackers took it over...

After the second phase of the evening occurs, the timing is about 11:30 or so The second phase commences after the teams have returned to the annex, and they suffer for about an hour and a half probing attacks from terrorists....

We began to hear also that the ambassador has been taken to a hospital. We don't know initially which hospital it is, but we -- through David's reports we learned that it is in a hospital which is controlled by Ansar Sharia, the group that Twitter feeds had identified as leading the attack on the consulate...

During the night, I am in touch with Washington keeping them posted of what's happening in Tripoli and to the best of my knowledge what I am being told in Benghazi. I think at about 2 p.m. the -- 2 a.m., sorry, the Secretary of State Clinton called me along with her senior staff were all on the phone, and she asked me what was going on. And, I briefed her on developments...

At about 3 a.m. I received a call from the prime minister of Libya. I think it is the saddest phone call I have ever had in my life. He told me that Ambassador Stevens had passed away. I immediately telephoned Washington that news afterwards, and began accelerating our effort to withdraw from the Villas compound and move to the annex...

Because we knew separately from David that the ambassador was in a hospital that we believe was under Ansar Sharia's call, we -- we suspected that we were being bated into a trap, and so we did not want to go send our people into an ambush...
http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/2...Hicks-Benghazi


Washington was FULLY aware of what was happening in Lybia.
It was from the beginning known to be an assault.
It was known from the beginning that Ansar Sharia was taking credit for the assault.
Sec. of State Hilary Clinton was told this within hours of the assault.
Washington knew what was happening. Obama knew what was happening.


Clinton's Testimony:
As I have said many times since September 11, I take responsibility. Nobody is more committed to getting this right. I am determined to leave the State Department and our country safer, stronger, and more secure.

She is a liar. She was told and knew it was a terrorist attack from the beginning.

Taking responsibility meant moving quickly in those first uncertain hours and days to respond to the immediate crisis and further protect our people and posts in high-threat areas across the region and the world.

There was nothing uncertain about it. She continued to lie...

No denials of support from Washington or from the military.

More lies...

It is our responsibility to make sure they have the resources they need to do their jobs and to do everything we can to reduce the risks they face.

I stood next to President Obama as the Marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at Andrews. I put my arms around the mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, sons and daughters.

It is beyond revolting for this individual to stand next to President Obama all the while perpetuating a lie to these families and the American people. A lie they knew was a lie.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...ate-committee/


Also, it is revolting to see where the investigation has required a bottom to top assessment rather than a top down assessment. The bottom has been threatened from the top and this government needs to be held accountable period. This is not about "spinning" a story.
It is about the failure to command.
Everyone involved, beginning with the President, actively aided and abetted an assault against our Consulate - US sovereign soil. They aided and abetted the enemies of this nation by the failure to take command and do what was necessary to respond to the heinous act.

It is about the failure to be honest.
Everyone, including the President, actively sought to cover the assault up by stating it was about a video. They purposely and deliberately fabricated that story. They continued to try and sell that pack of lies to the American people and used the flag draped coffins of heroes to do it. They looked these families in the eye and flat out lied to them.

It is about a failure to be involved.
The President is said to have gone to bed. He had a fund raiser to attend. That fund raiser was more important to him than the lives of Americans that were being assaulted. This is revolting.

I could go on but I have other things to do.
They need a special commission that can interview everyone involved. Including the survivors of the assault. They need to testify under oath and everyuone from teh President on down needs to be held accountable.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:34 AM
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How'd you like to be the WH Press Secretary or POTUS Chief of Staff about now?
They probably had a party at the White House last night. It's business as usual for them. They think they're untouchable. The press, for the most part, has been their cover-up specialists. They're arrogant and feel invincible due to their wins with obamacare, fast and furious and the last election.

I'm holding out the smallest hope that some journalists will start doing their job and hold the administration accountable.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:34 PM
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They probably had a party at the White House last night. It's business as usual for them. They think they're untouchable. The press, for the most part, has been their cover-up specialists. They're arrogant and feel invincible due to their wins with obamacare, fast and furious and the last election.

I'm holding out the smallest hope that some journalists will start doing their job and hold the administration accountable
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CBS News President Brother of Obama National Security Official; Will He Oust Benghazi Reporter Sharyl Attkisson?

So…

1. According to ABC News, Obama's national security advisor Ben Rhoades was deeply involved in the editing of the CIA talking points.

2. These same CIA talking points are central to what many believe is a White House coverup.

3. Ben Rhoades is the brother of CBS News president David Rhoades.

4. At CBS News, Sharyl Attkisson is one of the only mainstream media journalists with the dogged determination and moral courage to demand the truth about the White House's involvement on the CIA talking points.

5. For months now reports have surfaced that Attkisson's bosses are unhappy with her, that she has trouble getting her Libya stories on the air, and that she's being accused of engaging in "advocacy."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...aryl-Attkisson
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Wow: CBS News President and WH Official Tied to Benghazi Scandal Are Brothers

Attkisson is still eyeing an exit, according to sources -- and provide important context for today's piece.

If Sharyl Attkisson continues to be relegated to the sidelines, or is even shown the door, at CBS News over her Benghazi coverage, the public must demand full disclosure about David Rhodes' role in that decision-making process. The Rhodes brothers' familial tie may be a bizarre, irrelevant coincidence. It's possible. But it's not a leap to suggest that this reeks of corruption and collusion.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...oints-n1593081
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Wow: CBS News President and WH Official Tied to Benghazi Scandal Are Brothers

Attkisson is still eyeing an exit, according to sources -- and provide important context for today's piece.

If Sharyl Attkisson continues to be relegated to the sidelines, or is even shown the door, at CBS News over her Benghazi coverage, the public must demand full disclosure about David Rhodes' role in that decision-making process. The Rhodes brothers' familial tie may be a bizarre, irrelevant coincidence. It's possible. But it's not a leap to suggest that this reeks of corruption and collusion.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...oints-n1593081
But hey, Dedicated Mind says there's nothing new here. And of course, he's really for truth and integrity in government. He's not the type that would ignore corruption and lies for pure blind partisanship.
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But hey, Dedicated Mind says there's nothing new here. And of course, he's really for truth and integrity in government. He's not the type that would ignore corruption and lies for pure blind partisanship.
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