Saved vs striving to be saved??

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Saved.

Striving to be sanctified (some days are better than others).

HMMM not sure our striving can accomplish that either:

1 Cor 6:11

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified , but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
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1 Cor 1:2

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
KJV

Heb 2:11

11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
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Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
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Notice past tense? How can this be?


Heb 10:10

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
KJV


"we are sanctified" not to get sanctified


1 Cor 1:30-2:1

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption :

31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.


KJV


Sanctification is ours because we are in Christ. This why we should only glory in the Lord for he is those things to us.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Luke

I am saved yet striving to stay saved.

How much striving does it take to stay saved? How do you know if your presently striving enough to say "I am saved"?

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I like all scripture, now understanding them and put them together is the crux. Not sure how you get those scriptures means Paul was striving to be saved

Context.

Perhaps this will help:
JFB Commentary:
Philippians 3:11
If by any means — not implying uncertainty of the issue, but the earnestness of the struggle of faith (1Co_9:26, 1Co_9:27), and the urgent need of jealous self-watchfulness (1Co_10:12).
attain unto the resurrection of the dead — The oldest manuscripts read, “the resurrection from (out of) the dead,” namely, the first resurrection; that of believers at Christ’s coming (1Co_15:23; 1Th_4:15; Rev_20:5, Rev_20:6). The Greek word occurs nowhere else in the New Testament. “The power of Christ’s resurrection” (Rom_1:4), ensures the believer’s attainment of the “resurrection from the (rest of the) dead” (compare Phi_3:20, Phi_3:21). Compare “accounted worthy to obtain the resurrection from the dead” (Luk_20:35). “The resurrection of the just” (Luk_14:14).


There is no such thing as once saved always saved. That is lie that will send many to a devils hell.

However, no man can pluck us from the Father's hand.
The Devil has voted against us.
God has voted for us.
We are the deciding vote.


Paul strained forward towards the resurrection from the dead (salvation).
RWP
Php 3:13 Stretching forward (epekteinomenos).
Present direct middle participle of the old double compound epekteinō (stretching myself out towards). Metaphor of a runner leaning forward as he runs.

G1901
ἐπεκτείνομαι
epekteinomai
Thayer Definition:
1) to stretch out to or towards
2) to stretch (one’s self) forward to

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

How much striving does it take to stay saved? How do you know if your presently striving enough to say "I am saved"?

The mature have this mindset:
Php 3:8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
Php 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith--
Php 3:10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
Php 3:11 that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.
Php 3:12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.
Php 3:13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
Php 3:14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

How much striving does it take to stay saved? How do you know if your presently striving enough to say "I am saved"?

Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Luke

Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Do you consider your self completely sin free?

[Truthseeker]

Pliny, I am now away from home on my phone. I will address your last post when on my PC.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Do you consider your self completely sin free?

Yes

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Luke

Yes

Wow, first one ever to answer yes. You walk in complete submission to God bearing fruit of the Spirit? You never get angry when shouldn't? Love at all times? Etc....

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Wow, first one ever to answer yes. You walk in complete submission to God bearing fruit of the Spirit? You never get angry when shouldn't? Love at all times? Etc....

I haven't always but now through Jesus I can say yes.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,