If believing is enough

[SDG]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Haven't you heard of those that tarry for the Holy Ghost baptism for years? Do we run them off? Does the Physician run of those that are sick and in need? DA, you need to tighten it up a little........

I have but most Water and Spirit folks would say they are not rapture ready .... it must've been an oversight on Philip's part for not telling Simon his soul was in jeopardy ....

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I have but most Water and Spirit folks would say they are not rapture ready .... it must've been an oversight on Philip's part for not telling Simon his soul was in jeopardy ....

Can you be "rapture ready" without the baptism of the Holy Ghost?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Can you be "rapture ready" without the baptism of the Holy Ghost?

DWW ... this conversation has been hashed and re-hashed .... do you want to go down this road ... and if it is .... Phillip did a poor job w/ Simon ....

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

DWW ... this conversation has been hashed and re-hashed .... do you want to go down this road ... and if it is .... Phillip did a poor job w/ Simon ....

Yes or No?

Rom 8:11 - 16 (KJV)
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

[SDG]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Yes or No?

Now it would all depend when we receive his spirit ... and what the baptism of the Holy Ghost is .... DWW ... you've been here to long to not know where I stand on this ....

Oh boy! Another divisive, strife causing thread to use the ignore feature on!

YAY!!!!

lol

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Now it would all depend when we receive his spirit ... and what the baptism of the Holy Ghost is .... DWW ... you've been here to long to not know where I stand on this ....

I'm just asking in light of Acts 8, that's all..........and poking you while I'm at it.........

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Oh boy! Another divisive, strife causing thread to use the ignore feature on!

YAY!!!!

lol

What division? What strife?

[Scott Hutchinson]

The same faith that it takes to place faith in Jesus's blood to forgive your sins ,is the same faith that is exercised when one is getting buried with Him in baptism ,and it is an extension of the same faith placed in Jesus Christ to become Spirit -Filled.

[Sam]

Some thought on Acts chapter 8 from a one-stepper.

-Philip preached Christ (verse 5)
-God confirmed the Word with healings and exorcisms (v. 6-7)
-There was great joy (v. 8). The kingdom of God is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost
-Philip preached "the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ" (v. 12)
-As a result of Philip's preaching, folks got water baptized (v. 8-9)
-Phillip had a policy of not baptizing someone until they made a confession of faith according to verses 36-37
-The Samaritans had received the Word (v. 14) To a one-stepper, they had believed the message and received the Word ---that would be salvation.
-The folks were saved/regenerated but had not received the Holy Ghost baptism yet (v. 15-16)
-Peter was sent by someone who must have had more authority than he so he might not have been the first pope, gen. supt. or presiding bishop (v. 14)
-the HGB (Holy Ghost Baptism) or filling, or receiving, or Holy Ghost coming upon happened by the laying on of hands (v. 17) like Saul of Tarsus later received in Acts 9 and like the Ephesian Baptists later received in Acts 19
-Something happened when they received the HGB. Something was evident there at the HGB which was beyond the healing and the miracles they had seen before. This something caused Simon to want to buy that ability to lay hands on folks and minster the Spirit to them (v. 18-19)
-Peter said to him " to hell with your money! And you along with it." (v.20)
-Peter went on to say, ...you have neither part nor portion in this utterance (if the same word translation is used as in 1 cor. 1:5) for your heart is not right in the sight of God" (v. 21)

To a one-stepper the folks got saved and water baptized (in Jesus' name) under the ministry of Evangelist Philip. Then they received the HGB under the ministry of Peter and John.