Texas Delegates Mutiny

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Michael, I am totally opposed to Abortion in all cases.. no matter what, I believe it's murder. However, of the two clear choices you have.... and if Abortion is your compass for voting... you have one man who may favor it when the life of the mother is at stake... and another man who has gone on record for not only favoring partial birth abortions where the baby is murdered partly outside the womb.... but also said, in cases where babies actually survive a botched abortion and are living outside the womb... he didn't favor getting medical help to that now living, breathing baby.....


So you tell me... is there not something inside of you that tells you the stand of the two men is night and day???

Exactly.

[bbyrd009]

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Sam

I don't know how liberal Romney is on abortion but it can't be as liberal as Obama is. Ron Paul is strong against abortion. The Republican platform will have a "token" plank about abortion. Barack Obama is in favor of abortion at any time, even after the birth of the child.

What?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Michael, I am totally opposed to Abortion in all cases.. no matter what, I believe it's murder. However, of the two clear choices you have.... and if Abortion is your compass for voting... you have one man who may favor it when the life of the mother is at stake... and another man who has gone on record for not only favoring partial birth abortions where the baby is murdered partly outside the womb.... but also said, in cases where babies actually survive a botched abortion and are living outside the womb... he didn't favor getting medical help to that now living, breathing baby.....


So you tell me... is there not something inside of you that tells you the stand of the two men is night and day???

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Timmy

What?

When I said that Barack Obama was in favor of abortion even after the birth of the child, I meant:
1. He believes in "partial birth abortion" i.e. stopping the birth process after the head has emerged and then piercing the skull and brain to kill the partially born child
2. If an abortion is botched and the child is born alive, Barack Obama opposes any medical treatment to keep the baby alive but instead is in favor of either killing the child outright or providing no care until the child dies of neglect.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Romney is no worse than my husband. My husband and I vehemently disagree over the "mother's life" clause. He has told me in no uncertain terms that if HE ever had to choose between me and an unborn baby, he would pick me. As persuasive as I am , I haven't been able to budge him on that one.

You missed my point. I never mentioned the Mothers "life". I myself am for the exception to save the Mothers LIFE.

My wife was on the cutting edge of the pro life movement for years being imprisoned in various states for preaching the gospel.

How the devil works is by making a clause for the womans HEALTH. That is much different than her LIFE. The health clause means basically ANYTHING. It is as if there are no restrictions at all.

Her "health" can mean she does not like her breasts to sag. It can mean she may have stress because she has to care for children. It may hurt her mental well being because she may have to give up time she likes to use for other things to train up a child. See?

The HEALTH of the mother is much different than the LIFE of the mother. In the abortion debate this is how the liberals pacify the people deceiving them into thinking the two things are the same.

The health of the mother exception could mean ANYTHING one chooses it to mean it is just a smokescreen for unjustified homicide of the child.

In other words Romney has come full circle from pro choice to pro life now to the very safe politically correct position of exception for the HEALTH of the mother. I think that fits very nicely with the pro choice position.


No I wont walk across the street to vote for a man who ok with murdering the unborn and giving innocent children away to "gay" couples.

It will be interesting to see what Paul Ryan now says. Im sure he has opposed the HEALTH exception if he has followed the battle over the years.

[Dedicated Mind]

paul ryan is definitely against health exception, but yes, mitt romney said, "äbortion in cases of HEALTH or life of the mother" in cbs interview on yesterday.

[AreYouReady?]

You are so right Michael. Words mean something, but most people do not take the time to pick out those words.

Everybody thinks Bush had a 'partial birth abortion' ban passed. But most did not read the wording in that bill and reality is...there is no real ban on partial birth abortions. Full term babies are still being killed according to what I read on what a doctor said.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

paul ryan is definitely against health exception, but yes, mitt romney said, "äbortion in cases of HEALTH or life of the mother" in cbs interview on yesterday.

Now that Mitt has the nomination hes comfortable to let the HEALTH exception put the unaware voter back to sleep assuming he is pro life.

He may do the same with his position on guns slowly without fanfare drifting back to his original anti 2 nd amendment position. He has never come out against gay rights only in support of traditional marriage.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

You are so right Michael. Words mean something, but most people do not take the time to pick out those words.

Everybody thinks Bush had a 'partial birth abortion' ban passed. But most did not read the wording in that bill and reality is...there is no real ban on partial birth abortions. Full term babies are still being killed according to what I read on what a doctor said.

Exactly.