Preview of Desperate Dems as Election Slips Away

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by canam

some people look for racism constantly and surprsingly they find it,instead of blacks taking up for this loser and others like him, why aint they talking up people like Thomas Sowell and Bill Cosby, Colin Powell Allen West , Clarence Thomas, no nstead they are uncle toms,disgusting !!! hey JD he is the food stamp/welfare president proven when they handed out money to families in 2008 /9 for back to school ,the only requirement was they had to be on welfare !!! and your a race baiter for insinuating we were talking about blacks when they are more whites on food stamps.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

JD - you need to look at yourself.
Looking for a racist behind every Republican comment is ridiculous and repugnant.
The biggest racists in this country are liberal Democrats.
The "great society" of LBJ did it's best to destroy the black family, under the guise of helping the poor.
Instead of helping the poor it led to the breakdown of the black family and home.
The free-wheeling women's rights abortion issue led to the murder of millions of black children.
And you look for racism in every Republican comment.
Ridiculous.

Ok.
Examine the tone of my posts.

Examine the tone of your posts.


It is normal for people who see wrong to become defensive. I am attacked, but I did not attack any one person. I explained the racism behind a remark, you guys respond how?


Listen. Often, the language of some people on the right is purposefully offensive to be purposefully attractive to people who hold a racially prejudiced mindset.

If you want to think that calling a black President, "The Food Stamp President" is not a throw back to the "Welfare Queen" of the 80's so be it. I am showing you HOW this is offensive, but you're telling me to not be offended.

It's like hitting me in the kidneys and saying, "I didn't hit you hard-- that shouldn't hurt." It's like being in a car accident and afterwards experiencing back pain, only to have the doctor say, "You shouldn't be in pain."

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by canam

JD is not only thin skinned ,he has no skin,hey JD why dont you tell us about your racial struggle growing up, mr gen. x ? do you even remember the 80's ? Jd also says he didnt vote for obammy last time ? thats probably/almost definitely, because he didnt vote at all and more than likely wont this time, just a complainer/provacutuer.

Canam, you can disagree with JD without being so poisonous. As much as JD and I disagree politically, and as much as we go round and round, we are friends and I don't like your tone. Back off and be more civil please. I don't like it.

[deacon blues]

JD, I don't understand in this day and age how any Republican would gain from loading comments with racist remarks. If someone was truly racist, would Romney or any Republican need to garner their support? They aren't going to vote for Obama anyway. Anyone using racist remarks in this day and age would hurt their candidacy more than help it. He/she would lose more votes and support than gain any. It doesn't follow good logic that anyone would be trying to use racist undertones in 2012. Especially not national figures like Romney or Gingrich. I think it's reading way too much into the comment. To be for sure if a Republican presided over the greatest increase in food stamp recipients the point would be made by the opposition and no one would say it's racist. The assumption is Democrats aren't racists and the GOP is. Meanwhile, no one can really address the truth of the matter that the economy is tanking and this is just a symptom of the problem. We waste our time talking issues that were settled back in the 60s and 70s. There is nothing holding back anyone in this country---except intrusive government.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

JD, I don't understand in this day and age how any Republican would gain from loading comments with racist remarks. If someone was truly racist, would Romney or any Republican need to garner their support? They aren't going to vote for Obama anyway. Anyone using racist remarks in this day and age would hurt their candidacy more than help it. He/she would lose more votes and support than gain any. It doesn't follow good logic that anyone would be trying to use racist undertones in 2012. Especially not national figures like Romney or Gingrich. I think it's reading way too much into the comment. To be for sure if a Republican presided over the greatest increase in food stamp recipients the point would be made by the opposition and no one would say it's racist. The assumption is Democrats aren't racists and the GOP is. Meanwhile, no one can really address the truth of the matter that the economy is tanking and this is just a symptom of the problem. We waste our time talking issues that were settled back in the 60s and 70s. There is nothing holding back anyone in this country---except intrusive government.

The tanking of the economy can be addressed in a variety of ways, with solutions offered.

Calling a white President, "The Food Stamp President" would not hold the same punch as calling a black President, "The Food Stamp President". It's a throw back to a prejudice that was never true from the beginning.

[deacon blues]

I get what you're saying, I don't agree with it, but I understand. But it still begs the question, "What would be gained from making racist comments in 2012?" It doesn't follow any logical line of thinking. No modern day national candidate would in his right mind would want to even come close to appearing racist. So I don't get how anyone can think these guys are actually trying to speak in racial undertones. The vast majority of American voters reject racism in both parties and independents. How is that a wise campaign strategy?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I get what you're saying, I don't agree with it, but I understand. But it still begs the question, "What would be gained from making racist comments in 2012?" It doesn't follow any logical line of thinking. No modern day national candidate would in his right mind would want to even come close to appearing racist. So I don't get how anyone can think these guys are actually trying to speak in racial undertones. The vast majority of American voters reject racism in both parties and independents. How is that a wise campaign strategy?

It isn't a wise campaign strategy.

I understand the point you are making too.

[canam]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Canam, you can disagree with JD without being so poisonous. As much as JD and I disagree politically, and as much as we go round and round, we are friends and I don't like your tone. Back off and be more civil please. I don't like it.

sorry deac but he is just as poisonous with his accusations and his name calling towards me, its not a one way street .i refuse to let it pass or kow to it.he has made it personal,i simply responded in like manner.of course like in a sports game its always the responder who sticks out.while the other person hides.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by canam

sorry deac but he is just as poisonous with his accusations and his name calling towards me, its not a one way street .i refuse to let it pass or kow to it.he has made it personal,i simply responded in like manner.of course like in a sports game its always the responder who sticks out.while the other person hides.

Dude,
I didn't call you any names or accused you on this thread. Neither did I make any of the points I was trying to make in a way personally attacking you.

By the way, I am not hiding, I am at work.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by canam

sorry deac but he is just as poisonous with his accusations and his name calling towards me, its not a one way street .i refuse to let it pass or kow to it.he has made it personal,i simply responded in like manner.of course like in a sports game its always the responder who sticks out.while the other person hides.

I know most of the time you and I are on the same page. But honestly I've never seen JD be vitriolic or personal towards anyone on here. Passionate about his politics, yes, but not personally vindictive. I'm just saying Canam, make your points but don't make it personal. JD is a good guy---misguided in his politics, but a good guy nonetheless.

My dad is the greatest Christian I know. Prayer warrior and miracle worker. He has has such great faith and I've seen many mighty miracles wrought through my father. And yet, he is a yellow dog Democrat! I disagree with about every political position he takes. He grew up in Oklahoma during the Depression and FDR is his hero. He was a phone man for 45 years and about half that time as a CWA union man. His politics are all about blue collar values and working class economics. But I love him and I think he hung the moon.

So you can really disagree with someone but not get ugly. That's all I'm saying Can.

[canam]

i hear ya deac,it went personal not on this thread, but on another, when he because he refuses to see what many others see, didnt like that i accused him of pandering to obaam because he is black ,understandable btw just admit it !!! and i still beleieve that ,the comment was made "your an idiot im done with ya" so there is the name calling and ergo the hiding ,the point is all of us aint wrong, numerous people have said the same in so many words im a little more direct ,maybe he should ask stew or another african american on here what they see of his posts ,than maybe he will see it,i dont know.im actually not even convinced he really believes himself what he says and if not im not sure why he insists on pretending he does (he told us many months/years, ago he doesnt say in his circle of friends what he writes on here ,words to that effect) he never started to cover for obammy until we started eviscerating him which he deserves as an absolute unmitigated failure ,than he got offended because in his mind, were just doing that because he is black( the old racism attack that all the libs promulgate)he has blasted Romney for a lot less than what obammy has done, to the extent its laughable with the flip flopping accusations and the lying accusations and the attacks on Mormonism ps i aint scared of the Mormons i am of islam they have a track record shall we say.he needs to read what he writes and look in the mirror. ps i notice he skipped over my point that after thinking about it, i doubt he even voted last time,and i figure he will just refuse to vote this time too.