Obama Supporters

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

obama will tackle the deficit with a balanced approach. raising taxes on the rich, investing in ways that grow the economy and protecting the programs for the poor. romney will do the opposite.

Hey...didn’t he say that last election? The economy is tanking again.

romney is not relevant in this discussion

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

obama will protect social security and medicare for the elderly and disabled. romney and ryan want to privatize both programs.

Do you actually buy into the propaganda that Obama wants to “save” social security? There has not been a trust for Social Security in decades. All the money collected is going into the general fund. I have read reports where Medicare will be replaced by Obamacare. So what’s the point?

There has been talk for years about privatizing our retirement programs and they have been slowly revamping retirement programs since the 1990s. Obama is not going to save anything.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

obama will have a responsible foreign policy. he has kept his promise to end the wars in iraq and afghanistan and will only go to war with iran as a last resort. romney will have the same neocon team as george w. bush.

Uh...the last time I looked, we are still in Afghanistan and a low profile presence in Iraq. They gotta have people in that monstrous embassy they built in that there green zone.

Romney is not relevant in this thread.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

obama averted a depression by bailing out banks. obama saved the auto industry by making loans to auto companies.

It would have been better to let them fail. Yeah. You read that right. The irresponsible ones would be under and out and the responsible banks would rise.

The banks are going to need another future bailout to avert another depression. How many times are the taxpayers going to bail out banks while main street americans swirl in the toilet?

Have you actually read where the automobile loans went to? LOL. A portion of it went to GM who was using the money to move and support plants and other alliances in China and other countries. According to this article below, 70% of GMs autos are made outside the USA.

http://bwcentral.org/2012/05/how-oba...china/?lang=en

There are allegations that GM had repaid the loan from TARP calling it a "lie to the American people". They say the money for the loan repayment came from other bailout funds housed in an escrow account belonging to the company. In a letter from Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) to Ed Whitacre, it is called an "attempt to disguise what is merely the exchange of one pool of taxpayer money for another pool of taxpayer money as 'real progress'". Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa called it a government-enabled “TARP money shuffle.”
Because GM was mentioning the loan repayment in commercial advertising, the non-profit Competitive Enterprise Institute, a think tank funded by conservative groups such as the Koch brother's charitable foundations, said it filed a false-advertising complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. The Koch brothers are known for their anti-administration campaign and their support of conservative causes.

While I might be suspect of the claims made above, I can also be suspect that there was some switcheroo shell games happening concerning how the loan money has been paid back also.
We are never given the real story in MSM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genera...reorganization

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

obama killed osama bin laden.


There are hundreds of news reports out there that Osama bin Laden has been dead for years.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

obama has increased health insurane coverage for millions of amerians. romney has no health care plan.

Oh really? Is Obama going to pay for this so-called health insurance coverage for millions of americans? He has done nothing of the sort. That massive 3000 plus page bill that we still do not know what all is in it has been written long before Obama stepped onto the stage. It is just a repeat of what Hillary tried to get passed...plus a whole lot more pork in it for corporations.
Romney is not relevant in this thread.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Because with Obama's second term we can expect to see the final disintegration of America and we march blitzkrieg-speed into full blown socialism. This will avoid kicking the can on down the road to our grandkids which is probably what would happen with a Romney presidency as concerned Americans are driven back into a slumber thinking 'the GOP will save us'. Romney is a Trojan Horse. At least with Obama everybody knows where we stand.

The difference between the two parties, at this point, is like this - whereas the democrats want to drive the car off the cliff at 100 mph, the republicans only want to drive us off the cliff at 75 mph.

Why do you have to be so thorough?

[AreYouReady?]

Romney is not relevant in this thread.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Since there is but a little over three months before election day gets here, give me some reasons why I should vote for Obama.

What has he done for Americans while in office? What promises has he fulfilled from his last election?

Give me reasons as to why he won't be a lame duck president for the next four years.

Do not talk about Romney, Bush, Clinton, Reagan or any other president. They are not relevant.

Convince me.

I'm sorry AreYouReady, Dedicated Mind doesn't seem to know how to read or else is quite disrespectful of your request.

I can't find a reasonable reason to vote for a socialist. Remember, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it's probably a duck. When Obama talks like a socialist, and talks like a socialist, and talks like a socialist, .... oops, and acts like a socialist, he's probably a socialist.

It was funny reading what DM said Obama "would" do! Oh yea! He hasn't done many of those things in his first term. What makes you think he might keep his word in a second term? He'll be more dangerous than ever in a second term. He won't be obligated to anyone except the far left liberals and the only reason he would be obligated there is that "he is a far left liberal" himself!

Been Thinkin

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Hey...didn’t he say that last election? The economy is tanking again.

romney is not relevant in this discussion





Do you actually buy into the propaganda that Obama wants to “save” social security? There has not been a trust for Social Security in decades. All the money collected is going into the general fund. I have read reports where Medicare will be replaced by Obamacare. So what’s the point?

There has been talk for years about privatizing our retirement programs and they have been slowly revamping retirement programs since the 1990s. Obama is not going to save anything.



Uh...the last time I looked, we are still in Afghanistan and a low profile presence in Iraq. They gotta have people in that monstrous embassy they built in that there green zone.

Romney is not relevant in this thread.



It would have been better to let them fail. Yeah. You read that right. The irresponsible ones would be under and out and the responsible banks would rise.

The banks are going to need another future bailout to avert another depression. How many times are the taxpayers going to bail out banks while main street americans swirl in the toilet?

Have you actually read where the automobile loans went to? LOL. A portion of it went to GM who was using the money to move and support plants and other alliances in China and other countries. According to this article below, 70% of GMs autos are made outside the USA.

http://bwcentral.org/2012/05/how-oba...china/?lang=en

There are allegations that GM had repaid the loan from TARP calling it a "lie to the American people". They say the money for the loan repayment came from other bailout funds housed in an escrow account belonging to the company. In a letter from Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) to Ed Whitacre, it is called an "attempt to disguise what is merely the exchange of one pool of taxpayer money for another pool of taxpayer money as 'real progress'". Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa called it a government-enabled “TARP money shuffle.”
Because GM was mentioning the loan repayment in commercial advertising, the non-profit Competitive Enterprise Institute, a think tank funded by conservative groups such as the Koch brother's charitable foundations, said it filed a false-advertising complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. The Koch brothers are known for their anti-administration campaign and their support of conservative causes.

While I might be suspect of the claims made above, I can also be suspect that there was some switcheroo shell games happening concerning how the loan money has been paid back also.
We are never given the real story in MSM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genera...reorganization




There are hundreds of news reports out there that Osama bin Laden has been dead for years.



Oh really? Is Obama going to pay for this so-called health insurance coverage for millions of americans? He has done nothing of the sort. That massive 3000 plus page bill that we still do not know what all is in it has been written long before Obama stepped onto the stage. It is just a repeat of what Hillary tried to get passed...plus a whole lot more pork in it for corporations.
Romney is not relevant in this thread.

AreYouReady, you don't need us answering your question. You just did an EXCELLENT job of answering the question yourself.

Been Thinkin

[AreYouReady?]

Since I do not see any value in voting for either one at this point in time, I'm still looking for some good reason to vote for either one. Which is why I posted two different threads. I want relevant, logical reasons to vote for Obama.

There surely has to be something there that makes sense for the reason Obama feels he can win this election again? I have not seen any valid points in the media yet.

That's what I am looking for...valid reasons.

[Nitehawk013]

Vote for Obama if you favor his criminal seating on the council of foreign relations. The POTUS is NOT supposed to be allowed to be seated on this council. Conflict of interests and such.

If you enjoy his ignoring the law and refusing to make his Justice dept under Holder enforce the laws of the land.

If you think it is a great idea to penalize those who are successful in order to buy votes form the "poor" (who don't really exist. we don't have truly poor people in America). If you are so eaten up with jealousy and envy that you think "I don't have a million dollars, so the Fed should take money form those who do and give it to me".

If you think it is a good idea to not verify the legal right of a person to vote. If you feel everyone should get to cast a vote, whether they are legally here or not, then Obama is your guy.

If you think it is the Feds job to "equalize" things so that no one does batter than anyone else, then Obama is your guy.

If you watch the news and see the mess in Europe due to their federal government spending too much, running up too much debt all in an effort to give "free" healthcare to everyone, "free" retirement to everyone, constantly expanding vacation time form work, etc and you want to bring that same mess to America...Obama is your guy.

If you love ex3ecutive orders that ignore Congress completely, then Obama is your guy. he's issued some 900+ of them, nearly one a day since he becamse POTUS.

Bottom line, if you love the idea of everyone else paying for you to get by on their dime, negating any responsibility on your part to get off your behind and earn your own way in life, then Obama is your man.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

all of the bailout money has been repaid to the gubment. you are misinformed.

Nooot !!! gm paid it back with money that was being held in escrow in other words they paid borrowed money with borrowed money,in addition bofa tried to give the money back gubment made them keep it so they would have more control over the bank.ford was the only smart one,one of our car dealers in my area flat out refused to participate in cash for clunkers because of the conditions and high likelyhood they wouldnt get paid.other dealers wish they hadnt participated.

[AreYouReady?]

I admire your cleverness Nitehawk.

[AreYouReady?]

Is there anybody out there who will give me a good reason to vote for Obama?
He won the Peace Prize shortly after the election. Somebody please refresh my memory what he did to earn that prize?