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Old 02-20-2007, 05:13 PM
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Why dost thou laugh at me, BOOMMman?! Is the most honorable Prax not an elder?!
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Old 02-20-2007, 05:14 PM
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O God, may Thy Spirit speak in me that I may speak to thee. I have no merit, let the merit of Jesus stand for me. I am undeserving, but I look to Thy tender mercy. I am full of infirmities, wants, sin; Thou art full of grace.

I confess my sin, my frequent sin, my willful sin; all my powers of body and soul are defiled: a fountain of pollution is deep within my nature. There are chambers of foul images within my being; I have gone from one odious room to another, walked in a no-man's-land of dangerous imaginations, pried into the secrets of my fallen nature.

I am utterly ashamed that I am what I am in myself; I have no green shoot in me nor fruit, but thorns and thistles; I am a fading leaf that the wind drives away; I live bare and barren as a winter tree, unprofitable, fit to be hewn down and burnt. Lord, dost Thou have mercy on me?

Thou hast struck a heavy blow at my pride, at the false god of self, and I lie in pieces before Thee. But Thou hast given me another master and lord, Thy Son, Jesus, and now my heart is turned towards holiness, my life speeds as an arrow from a bow towards complete obedience to Thee. Help me in all my doings to put down sin and to humble pride. Save me from the love of the world and the pride of life, from everything that is natural to fallen man, and let Christ's nature be seen in me day by day. Grant me grace to bear Thy will without repining, and delight to be not only chiseled, squared, or fashioned, but separated from the old rock where I have been embedded so long, and lifted from the quarry to the upper air, where I may be built in Christ for ever.
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Old 02-21-2007, 03:21 PM
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You are actually saying that we should not appear to be, or place ourselves, above others or be/appear haughty, correct? But, can we feel pleasure or satisfaction over something regarded as highly honorable or creditable? What about having or showing self-respect? May we be full of vigor and spirit? How about treating someone or oneself generously - is that permitted?
The point I was trying to make was that what you are calling "pride" (the biblical definition) differs from what others here are calling "pride" (the definition which comes from the dictionary). I don't believe anyone here places themselves above others in a haughty or arrogant way. But they feel pleasure over a thing or person that they regard highly.
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Old 02-21-2007, 03:23 PM
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The point I was trying to make was that what you are calling "pride" (the biblical definition) differs from what others here are calling "pride" (the definition which comes from the dictionary). I don't believe anyone here places themselves above others in a haughty or arrogant way. But they feel pleasure over a thing or person that they regard highly.
One of my first posts on FCF was about this and self-esteem. Roxie ate my lunch! She was very against any type of pride or self-esteem.

Maybe it's the attitude behind the word, but I'm proud of my kids and I don't think that's a sin.
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Old 02-21-2007, 03:28 PM
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One of my first posts on FCF was about this and self-esteem. Roxie ate my lunch! She was very against any type of pride or self-esteem.

Maybe it's the attitude behind the word, but I'm proud of my kids and I don't think that's a sin.
I'm proud of my kids, too. But I'm not haughty or arrogant. I feel generous & pleasure towards them! Thus, I'm "proud."
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Old 02-21-2007, 03:32 PM
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I'm proud of my kids, too. But I'm not haughty or arrogant. I feel generous & pleasure towards them! Thus, I'm "proud."
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Thank you, Elder...I'm just revisiting what someone else started

Why are you brothers laughing at me?! Is Prax not an elder?!
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:08 PM
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One of my first posts on FCF was about this and self-esteem. Roxie ate my lunch! She was very against any type of pride or self-esteem.

Maybe it's the attitude behind the word, but I'm proud of my kids and I don't think that's a sin
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