Preaching to the choir?

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

A fun exercise is to go thru the Gospels and find out how many times Jesus was in church. And, on the rare occasion he WAS in church, what was he doing? Things like throwing out money changers, preaching to the hypocrites in the pews, healing people on the Sabbath, destroying traditions, etc.......most of His time was spent OUTSIDE the four walls of the church, going to where the sinners were - not sending invitations for them to come inside the church where He was.

Just a thought.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Jay,

How do we know that he hasn't effected anything?

1 Corinthians 3:1-10
1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

I'd like to encourage many who feel a given call not to faint if they don't see "results". You may be called to plant, or to water. You may NEVER see the fruits of your ministry until you enter Heaven's glory. Little is much... when God is in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A_jMCEYgUY

Lastly, Jay, can you elaborate on what you mean be this individual being proven to "compromise on the rigor of his message"? I think this could be valuable for those who might feel like this original poster.

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[RandyWayne]

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Jay,

How do we know that he hasn't effected anything?

1 Corinthians 3:1-10
1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

I'd like to encourage many who feel a given call not to faint if they don't see "results". You may be called to plant, or to water. You may NEVER see the fruits of your ministry until you enter Heaven's glory. Little is much... when God is in it.

Lastly, Jay, can you elaborate on what you mean be this individual being proven to "compromise on the rigor of his message"? I think this could be valuable for those who might feel like this original poster.

It is very simple really. He claims to still believe in baptism in Jesus' name, the infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues, and in the Oneness of the Godhead. However, he sits in positions of influence in a trinitarian church, and he has been there for a number of years. But when ever he would not publically support the doctrines.

[forgivenson]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

I am really happy to see these replies. I believe it is time for me to get off my duff.