sin unto death?

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

And/or homosexual?

Not my thoughts - but I have known people who have stated this.

That would have been punishable by death then, so a potential/probable yup.

[J4Truth]

I was taught its simply, literally "sin unto you die." See, if you're alive, you have space for reproof, repentance, and so on. If you're dead only thing left is judgement.

So a sin not unto death is simply not continuing in sin until death. A a sin unto death is sinning until you die. The former could be helped but the latter can't be.

[houston]

No.

[Austin]

I don't want to know what it is. I think Paul said, don't pray for it, or in other words don't seek to know what it is? I may be wrong, but, what we know is what we are expected to obey and what we know between right and wrong is what we are accountable for, or what can be held accountable against us.
I think a sin unto death would be one similar to what happen to Ananias and Sapphira in the book of Acts Chpt. 5. A sin when you commit it you drop over dead.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Austin

I don't want to know what it is. I think Paul said, don't pray for it, or in other words don't seek to know what it is? I may be wrong, but, what we know is what we are expected to obey and what we know between right and wrong is what we are accountable for, or what can be held accountable against us.
I think a sin unto death would be one similar to what happen to Ananias and Sapphira in the book of Acts Chpt. 5. A sin when you commit it you drop over dead.

Well, a lot of the commentary seems to be leaning that way; but I note that this would seem to negate "a sin that leads unto death," singular (which would seem to suggest denial of the Holy Spirit, or not being born from above, which you would think could be prayed for?) as opposed to "sin that does not lead unto death," without the "a," in the very next verse.
Houston, do you know, and are just torturing us? I'm still looking, but my guess for now will be the sin of "separation," a single sin that may be accomplished multiple ways?

And, I think it's beneficial to know, if for no other reason than to avoid, or to be able to recognize. This was brought home to me in my study of "hate," which many naturally shy away from, and even call a sin! (and yes, I'm aware of John)--but, it led me to a deeper understanding of love! Like that, maybe.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by J4Truth

I was taught its simply, literally "sin unto you die." See, if you're alive, you have space for reproof, repentance, and so on. If you're dead only thing left is judgement.

So a sin not unto death is simply not continuing in sin until death. A a sin unto death is sinning until you die. The former could be helped but the latter can't be.

This might not apply specifically here; Houston seems convinced it doesn't--but it is still valid.

[houston]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

This might not apply specifically here; Houston seems convinced it doesn't--but it is still valid.

That scenario doesn't fit. We are told not to pray for one who sins a sin unto death. Last I checked, we don't pray for dead people.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by houston

That scenario doesn't fit. We are told not to pray for one who sins a sin unto death. Last I checked, we don't pray for dead people.

We do if we believe that God will raise them from the dead.

However as that is not what is under discussion I will leave it alone for now.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Jay

We do if we believe that God will raise them from the dead.

However as that is not what is under discussion I will leave it alone for now.

when you die your fate is sealed.

lds baptize by proxy.

catholics pray for those in pergatory.

you were saying.

[bbyrd009]

We do if we believe that God will raise them from the dead.

when you die your fate is sealed.

Yup, until the moment you come to life? Just define "die" for me, real quick : )