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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
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Free speech has always had limits. You cannot yell "fire" in a crowded theater without violating the law.
Same thing applies to this group of idiots. They have a right to protest but not neccesarily within eyesight or hearing of grieving families.
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Says who?
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09-30-2010, 07:46 PM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
Is a church or funeral home considered public property? If so they unfortunately probably have the right to picket.
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09-30-2010, 07:47 PM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
There are places to oppose and protest against war, but not against individuals.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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09-30-2010, 07:58 PM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
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There are places to oppose and protest against war, but not against individuals.
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Says who?
Besides, if you are protesting the policies and culture of an entire country, how can the citizens of that country not be protested against?
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09-30-2010, 09:41 PM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
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Says who?
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Says some communities that have enacted laws to that effect because of those idiots.
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09-30-2010, 10:09 PM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
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The Pastor of Westboro Baptist church is the Defendant in a case that the Supreme Court will weigh.
This case tests the boundaries of our First Amendment Right to Freedom of Expression. Most of us are familiar with the midwestern whackos that protest the funerals of American servicemen with signs like, "Thank God for Dead Soldiers", "America Is Doomed", and "God Is Your Enemy."
So should these types of protests be banned from happening within eyesight or even earshot of the grieving?
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Democratic Party
Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15% of the vote in 1998.[36] In the 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate, Phelps received 31% of the vote [37] Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka in 1993 [38] and 1997. [39]
and he used to be tight with Al Gore;
Jermyn Davidson Democrat pals are rather strange.
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10-01-2010, 12:26 AM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
The problem is that Westboro infringes on others' rights by exercising theirs. That is not what liberty is about.
Here are a few interesting facts about Fred Phelps. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...d-phelps-timel
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/...ked=3&item=WBC
Here are two articles about the case itself.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/0...ed-phelps.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Supre...ry?id=10770402
Now, maybe it's just me, but there seems to be a vast difference between someone "hurting feelings" and someone targeting a funeral by holding up signs that say "Thank God for dead troops," "You're in hell," and "God hates you."
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10-01-2010, 12:37 AM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
What would happen if someone came into a church, temple, mosque or any other place of worship and in the middle of a service began to disrupt and scream and make insulting remarks?
If you called the police what would they do? I know what they would do in the past, but honestly, this day and time I don't know if they would do anything or not. I think they would.
I feel that a funeral service, in particular, is a part of "worship," a part of a church or temple, etc's form of religious activities. Why should someone be allowed to disrupt simply because the four walls are missing?
This world is in sad shape!
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10-01-2010, 12:39 AM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin
What would happen if someone came into a church, temple, mosque or any other place of worship and in the middle of a service began to disrupt and scream and make insulting remarks?
If you called the police what would they do? I know what they would do in the past, but honestly, this day and time I don't know if they would do anything or not. I think they would.
I feel that a funeral service, in particular, is a part of "worship," a part of a church or temple, etc's form of religious activities. Why should someone be allowed to disrupt simply because the four walls are missing?
This world is in sad shape!
BT
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You can have them arrested for disturbing the peace and trespassing
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10-01-2010, 12:41 AM
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Re: Illegal To Hurt Your Feelings?
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You can have them arrested for disturbing the peace and trespassing
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Would that same procedure not work in our cemeteries as well? Or is that considered a public place? I don't think so! But who knows. How does the preacher that disrupts funerals get by with it?
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