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09-02-2010, 10:05 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
Since 1999 there is a net loss of -4 churches.
There are less churches in North America today than there was in 1999.
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09-02-2010, 10:15 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
Quite another thing to interpret these numbers.
Here are some good questions to ask.
Of those who "left" how many would be perceived as being "more liberal" and how many "more conservative" than the UPC?
Is Oneness Pentecostalism on the rise or declining in general?
Is the UPC's rate of groweth/decline much different than the groweth/decline of US Christianity in general?
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09-02-2010, 10:37 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
There were 258 daughter works 3 years ago. And the # has remained the same?
Can that be right?
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09-02-2010, 10:39 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
This is slander of the worse kind! I'm asking all the women to let down their hair and call down angels to stop this madness....
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09-02-2010, 10:44 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Quite another thing to interpret these numbers.
Here are some good questions to ask.
Of those who "left" how many would be perceived as being "more liberal" and how many "more conservative" than the UPC?
Is Oneness Pentecostalism on the rise or declining in general?
Is the UPC's rate of groweth/decline much different than the groweth/decline of US Christianity in general?
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The masonic preacher forum is claiming that Jones is reporting no more than 50 went to the WPF.
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09-02-2010, 10:49 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
Hoovie, not sure why you would couple "growth/decline" in your question?
It's plain that in more than a decade the org is stagnant in North America.
Why is that HMD?
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09-02-2010, 10:55 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
One consideration that needs to be made is that in the last few years there has been a consolidation of churches over pretty much all denominations.
Many smaller churches have closed or merged with larger ones as families seek out churches large enough to offer their children and themselves fellowship, activities, etc smaller churches cannot.
I think the estimated total number of persons attending Sunday School would be a better measure of the UPCI's growth than the number of churches. Just my edjumacated guess.
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09-02-2010, 11:14 PM
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Not riding the train
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
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As of today ...
9108 ministers.
3988 total churches
258 daughter works
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Hola! Nuestro UPCI Jihadist!!
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09-02-2010, 11:25 PM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
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Originally Posted by DAII
Their about page which has not been updated in about a couple of years reads:
The United Pentecostal Church International (UPCI) has been among the fastest growing church organizations in North America since it was formed in 1945 by the merger of the Pentecostal Church, Incorporated, and the Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ. From 617 churches listed in 1946, the UPCI in North America (United States and Canada) today lists 4,358 churches (which includes 4099 autonomous and 258 daughter works), 9,085 ministers, and reports a Sunday School attendance of 646,304. Moreover, it is also located in 175 other nations with 22,881 licensed ministers, 28,351 churches and meeting places, 652 missionaries, and a foreign constituency of over 3 million, making a total worldwide constituency of more than 4,036,945.
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is that "evangelistically speaking"?
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09-03-2010, 12:52 AM
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Re: Most Recent UPCI Stats
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Quite another thing to interpret these numbers.
Here are some good questions to ask.
Of those who "left" how many would be perceived as being "more liberal" and how many "more conservative" than the UPC?
Is Oneness Pentecostalism on the rise or declining in general?
Is the UPC's rate of groweth/decline much different than the groweth/decline of US Christianity in general?
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Is anyone asking about the other orgs, baptist, methodist etc? Growing? Shrinking? Staying the same?
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