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04-27-2007, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
If it weren't for immigration, none of us would be here.
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Ho,
This is totally not the same issue.
Immigration is for people that want to come and be an American and loyal to the system.
Illegal immigration is coming over here and trying to take over America with no intended loyalty at all.
This is the big issue. Flying the Mexican flag and claiming that they will take Tejas back is not loyalty.
Don't get me started!!!!! 
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04-27-2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't think we have at all. There is too much bribery and murder going on. You can't even trust the Border Patrol.
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Don't slam them for trying to do their job. One of the BP Agents was jailed for almost a year. Seems he disarmed an illegal and his crime- pushed him to the floor to cuff him.
Al-Quida could walk (or may have already) our borders and no one would flinch.
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04-27-2007, 10:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Ho,
This is totally not the same issue.
Immigration is for people that want to come and be an American and loyal to the system.
Illegal immigration is coming over here and trying to take over America with no intended loyalty at all.
This is the big issue. Flying the Mexican flag and claiming that they will take Tejas back is not loyalty.
Don't get me started!!!!! |
Some of them are here simply to work in our fields and earn a living!
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04-27-2007, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
EXACTLY!!!
I think it is very selfish for 3rd to 5th generation European immigrants to complain about immigration problems in the US and to try to close the border between Latin America and the U.S.
as was just stated, how do you think your relatives got here? |
I would be in favor of stopping all illegal immigration - by whatever means needed - then loosening the legal channels with the proper protections and safegaurds in place.
It's not so much overpopulation but the criminals and terrorist elements that I worry about.
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04-27-2007, 10:09 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
EXACTLY!!!
I think it is very selfish for 3rd to 5th generation European immigrants to complain about immigration problems in the US and to try to close the border between Latin America and the U.S.
as was just stated, how do you think your relatives got here?
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I have no problem with them being here. The Problem is here in Calif. they are putting so much strain on the medical industry that some hospitals have even closed. Do you want to keep paying higher taxes for this ? There has to be some trade off.
when the other generations came, they didn't have all the red tape and paper work to go through but they also didn't have all the freebies that illegals have now too. someone has to pay for that you know ?
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04-27-2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Don't slam them for trying to do their job. On of the BP Agents was jailed for almost a year. Seems he disarmed an illegal and his crime- pushed him to the floor to cuff him.
Al-Quida could walk (or may have already) our borders and no one would flinch.
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Sure, a few will do that. Many have been killed and many have taken money. The border is not safe. Enlist the Minutemen!
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Some of them are here simply to work in our fields and earn a living!
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Some are and that's true, but they are not here to be loyal to this country. They need to all be documented like Newt said. A large percentage of them are in our prisons and using our taxes to populate children on both sides of the border. I suspect I live closer to the border than you do.
Don't get me started!!!
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04-27-2007, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
I have no problem with them being here. The Problem is here in Calif. they are putting so much strain on the medical industry that some hospitals have even closed. Do you want to keep paying higher taxes for this ? There has to be some trade off.
when the other generations came, they didn't have all the red tape and paper work to go through but they also didn't have all the freebies that illegals have now too. someone has to pay for that you know ?
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Good post, Thad. I was going to bring up the medical issue.
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04-27-2007, 10:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Ho,
This is totally not the same issue.
Immigration is for people that want to come and be an American and loyal to the system.
Illegal immigration is coming over here and trying to take over America with no intended loyalty at all.
This is the big issue. Flying the Mexican flag and claiming that they will take Tejas back is not loyalty.
Don't get me started!!!!! |
Don't get ME started
Most......not all.......MOST illegal immigrants come over because they do want to be loyal to this country. They're not trying to "take it over" the way you accuse.
They do pay taxes.......the LIE or myth that all illegal immigrants are "mooching" from this country and don't pay back in is a LIE.
How does flying a mexican flag, differ than someone in Chicago or New York flying an Italian flag...or a southern who flys a Confederate flag?
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04-27-2007, 10:16 AM
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Steve Epley is my hero!
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Some of them are here simply to work in our fields and earn a living!
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I suppose shooting them on sight would probably be a bit much. 
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04-27-2007, 10:18 AM
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Not riding the train
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
Don't get ME started
Most......not all.......MOST illegal immigrants come over because they do want to be loyal to this country. They're not trying to "take it over" the way you accuse.
They do pay taxes.......the LIE or myth that all illegal immigrants are "mooching" from this country and don't pay back in is a LIE.
How does flying a mexican flag, differ than someone in Chicago or New York flying an Italian flag...or a southern who flys a Confederate flag?
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Sorry, I don't agree with the most.
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