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Old 04-18-2007, 11:10 AM
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after tampa lost of cons will probable have to leave
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after tampa lost of cons will probable have to leave

Not exactly true.

What everyone predicts may not happen.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:16 AM
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Not exactly true.

What everyone predicts may not happen.
boomm.
note the "probable".

I hope not, BUT if TV does pass the cons WILL HAVE TO LEAVE
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:23 AM
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boomm.
note the "probable".

I hope not, BUT if TV does pass the cons WILL HAVE TO LEAVE
Not exactly. Why your stance on this, since you are not UPC?
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Not exactly true.

What everyone predicts may not happen.
So true. It is amazing how many twists and turns things take before the real deal emerges.

I think we will all be surprised how it turns out.
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boomm.
note the "probable".

I hope not, BUT if TV does pass the cons WILL HAVE TO LEAVE

I would be interested on your take on this, Agape, as well.
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There is no way the tv resolution will pass.

Ain't gonna happen.
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There is no way the tv resolution will pass.

Ain't gonna happen.
I hope and pray you are right.
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:39 PM
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Not exactly. Why your stance on this, since you are not UPC?
I was UPC. I have friends that are UPC.
Let's say that you are a conservative upc preacher and you preach against tv.
Now let's say that one of your new converts somehow finds out about the UPC okaying, even promoting, tv ad.,etc. How do you handle this?
TV is the last straw for most of the cons still left in the org.
I hope and pray that the TV resolution will be soundly defeated, BUT I "think" that it will pass. Some mighty big names are sponsering it.
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So true. It is amazing how many twists and turns things take before the real deal emerges.

I think we will all be surprised how it turns out.
I won't be surprised. I have consistently predicted the resolution will fail yet again. Not because a majority of ministers don't support it but because there are enough moderates who are intimidated by the idea of the cons leaving enough to join with them in voting it down to "preserve unity".

A "unity" which I doubt will be kept anyway since the cons are itching to leave over other weighty matters like video screens at conferences, short sleeves, music, etc.
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