Glenn Beck mocks JN baptism - Page 2

deltaguitar · #11 09-08-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil Stearns

This is correct. Mormons have almost no beliefs in common with Apostolics.

Yes they do. I posted a quote from a mormon website mentioning acts 2:38 for remission of sins AND they were linking it up with John 3:5. Is there any other denomination that does that other than Mormon, Catholic, and Apostolics?

Also, if you will go listen to some of the debates between mormons and christians mormons talk a lot about "standards" and obedience for salvation. I was blown away the first time I watched these debates on youtube.

Hoovie · #12 09-08-2009, 10:33 PM

Glenn Beck is Mormon?

MarcBee · #13 09-09-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

Glenn Beck is Mormon?

Yes, since 1999, according to the professors at the University of Wikipedia.

Praxeas · #14 09-09-2009, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Hmmm, I am not sure but I think mormons preach Acts 2:38 and John 3:5 the same way the UPC does except for the speaking in tongues.

Here is a quote from Mormon.org

Jesus Christ taught that we must be baptised by immersion. He set the example Himself by being baptised to “fulfill all righteousness” (Matthew 3:15).

We are baptised for the remission of sins. (Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16). We are also baptised to become members of the Church of Jesus Christ, and to enter the kingdom of God (John 3:5).

Through the ordinance of baptism, we make a promise, called a covenant, with God. We promise to accept Christ, to become His followers, and to keep His commandments to the end of our lives. In return, our Heavenly Father promises to forgive our sins and let us return to live with Him, provided we keep our covenants.

First off, what is your point? Why would anyone try to draw a comparison?

Second there is no reference to baptizing in Jesus name in that quote. The COC quotes Acts 2:38 too but they baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit etc

MawMaw · #15 09-09-2009, 04:33 AM

I've also heard Glen B. make fun of holiness "standards" too, so it doesn't surprise me about the baptism remark. He doesn't think too highly of us Apostolics it seems.

Hoovie · #16 09-09-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacey

I've also heard Glen B. make fun of holiness "standards" too, so it doesn't surprise me about the baptism remark. He doesn't think too highly of us Apostolics it seems.

I would be surprised to know Apostolics exist. It is not clear from the statement yesterday.

About the dress - he could have been distinguishing himself from the Texas Mormon off shoot that had the raid.

Neck · #17 09-09-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Stearns

This is correct. Mormons have almost no beliefs in common with Apostolics.

Come again? Have you seen the woman they are dead ringers for how the UPC look or are taught to look....

*AQuietPlace* · #18 09-09-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

I would be surprised to know Apostolics exist. It is not clear from the statement yesterday.

About the dress - he could have been distinguishing himself from the Texas Mormon off shoot that had the raid.

I agree. I doubt he's even heard of Apostolics. He's probably referring to his own religion.

deltaguitar · #19 09-09-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

First off, what is your point? Why would anyone try to draw a comparison?

Second there is no reference to baptizing in Jesus name in that quote. The COC quotes Acts 2:38 too but they baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit etc

My point was that Glen Beck being mormon has heard it done that way. I don't think he is making fun of those who baptize in Jesus name.

I might have learned something today.

I had always thought that the COC baptized in Jesus name but I am not sure what they say during baptism. I just assumed that because they quoted Acts 2:38 as their number one scripture that they baptized in Jesus name.

pelathais · #20 09-09-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

That is true I have read it.

I asked a Mormon bishop right out about the temple baptism once - which includes their "baptism for the dead" - and he told me plainly that they baptized "in Jesus name."

Whether he was just giving me answer "to make me happy" or not, I could not tell. Their literature does seem like they could go either way. Perhaps they do go either way, depending upon the beliefs of the local leaders involved, or what have you. To be as successful as the Mormon Church has been, they probably have to give on a lot of points.

As far as Geleen Beck's mocking goes, I missed that. I've never heard his radio show. If he did say that, I think it's unfortunate and folks ought to politely point out his gaff. He'd probably clarify himself and apologize.

What if his only exposure to "Jesus name baptism" consisted of Steve Winter and Rev. Reckard? It would be easy to see where he get's his mocking tone.