National Review Online Claims Obama US Born

[coadie]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105347

Attention liars and deceivers. This is what obama is hiding

Pictures of real documents not from Daily koz. Obama reminds us of car theft. The title is what we look for, not a story. The title. Not some line and flattering articles. The title

Susan Nordyke was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

Gretchen Nordyke followed at 2:17 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961


http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=281blzk&s=3

Here is the pic from Kenya.
What a day.
So we see an hand written one from kenya and the widnup minions can see what a real one looks like from HI.


This will give the con artists something to blow a gasket over.
When is the great deciever going to fess up? After another 988,000 dollars?

By the way. As soon as you try to decieve me some more, these old hospitals used CARBon paper and kept a carbon copy. It is incredibly difficult to make a fake old carbon copy because you don't know who else has a copy and it won't match

I remember 5 copy loan forms. Most hospitals had triplicate or more.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105347

Attention liars and deceivers. This is what obama is hiding

Pictures of real documents not from Daily koz. Obama reminds us of car theft. The title is what we look for, not a story. The title. Not some line and flattering articles. The title

Susan Nordyke was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

Gretchen Nordyke followed at 2:17 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961


http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=281blzk&s=3

Here is the pic from Kenya.
What a day.
So we see an hand written one from kenya and the widnup minions can see what a real one looks like from HI.


This will give the con artists something to blow a gasket over.
When is the great deciever going to fess up? After another 988,000 dollars?

By the way. As soon as you try to decieve me some more, these old hospitals used CARBon paper and kept a carbon copy. It is incredibly difficult to make a fake old carbon copy because you don't know who else has a copy and it won't match

I remember 5 copy loan forms. Most hospitals had triplicate or more.

It must really be killing you that your small bandwagon is losing steam before it really got going.

It is going to be okay, coadie. There are a lot of things you can still discuss that are actually grounded in reality. This could be a brand new beginning for you.

Seize the day!

[Bowas]

It sure does seem to me that the Obama-ites have not done their cause much justice by all the distractions and name calling to those that question the legitimacy of his birth. It has cost them umteen $$$ not to produce the original long form certificdate. Why not? It would shut everyone up on this issue. They have incurred lawer costs and lots of time avoiding what should be a simple answer. I requested my birth certificate a few years ago. No problem. I proved who I was, paid a nominal fee and recieved it. Why can't he do that and shut everyone up. The noise is growing the longer they stall, dispite the fact they are attempting to discredit any and all that would simply ask, "Where is the certificate". We should have a national moritorium on all things presidential, and install the Vice president (Biden) until it is put to rest with the original birht certificate. Simple. Yes?
Now who can argue with my simple logic?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Bowas

It sure does seem to me that the Obama-ites have not done their cause much justice by all the distractions and name calling to those that question the legitimacy of his birth. It has cost them umteen $$$ not to produce the original long form certificdate. Why not? It would shut everyone up on this issue. They have incurred lawer costs and lots of time avoiding what should be a simple answer. I requested my birth certificate a few years ago. No problem. I proved who I was, paid a nominal fee and recieved it. Why can't he do that and shut everyone up. The noise is growing the longer they stall, dispite the fact they are attempting to discredit any and all that would simply ask, "Where is the certificate". We should have a national moritorium on all things presidential, and install the Vice president (Biden) until it is put to rest with the original birht certificate. Simple. Yes?
Now who can argue with my simple logic?

Your logic is easy to discuss.

The application to request a copy of your birth certificate does not have an option for a short form or a long form. Thus, President Obama had to take what the state of Hawaii issued him.

As far as money spent to defend this, everyone throws around the $2 million number, but no one has actually verified this. Do you have a source stating how much money he has spent?

The state health director of Hawaii has confirmed twice that they have Obama's birth certificate on file and that Obama is a natural born citizen, born in Hawaii. The House of Representatives just unanimously passed a bill Monday whose wording included "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii...". The FEC vetted each presidential candidate thoroughly and concluded that both candidates were qualified to run.

I think the birther conspiracy would gain more traction if there were actual facts to back it up and not just thin air.

[coadie]

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When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “

Read that last line again.

http://www.fightthesmears.com.php5-9...rthcertificate


Mike and twisp. Is the above statement from factcheck true?

Yes or no.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

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Read that last line again.

http://www.fightthesmears.com.php5-9...rthcertificate


Mike and twisp. Is the above statement from factcheck true?

Yes or no.

We have no idea if that was really on factcheck or not. You haven't cited anything proving factcheck said that.

But no, that statement you just typed is not true.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

We have no idea if that was really on factcheck or not. You haven't cited anything proving factcheck said that.

But no, that statement you just typed is not true.

What part of it is not true?

You can see it on the link. Do they use their own logo?

Are you claiming factcheck would post something that is not true?

Why would it appear on fight the smeers also owned and operated by Obama?

I am shocked you don't believe factcheck is truthfull. Shocked!!
what changed???

[coadie]

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...tizenship.html

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children:

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

So you claimed this stuff from fact check is not true?

Obviously you have to start some spinning as do they.

Spin that the british laws over their citizens aren't beans.

Liberals run from facts again.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...tizenship.html



So you claimed this stuff from fact check is not true?

Obviously you have to start some spinning as do they.

Spin that the british laws over their citizens aren't beans.

Liberals run from facts again.

Nice one coadie, looks like I was wrong on that point. See what happens when you produce facts to back yourself up? You should start doing this on a regular basis.

There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids a dual-citizen President. Obama does not have dual citizenship now, it expired, per coadie's article:

But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.

So, this does not change anything. He has still met all requirements to be President.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Nice one coadie, looks like I was wrong on that point. See what happens when you produce facts to back yourself up? You should start doing this on a regular basis.

There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids a dual-citizen President. Obama does not have dual citizenship now, it expired, per coadie's article:But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.

So, this does not change anything. He has still met all requirements to be President.

It didn't expire according to the law.
The article was one of the liberal miscreant web sites and not the law.

The next false claim is your declaration. He never swore to be an American citizen. it is not a default activity
You keep spinning

Yes you are wrong. That is how i expose deception.

I check facts before i ask question.

Can you name a single person that lost citizenship by reason of turning 21?

I can point out how you make stuff up as you go.

You are saying if one hold a passport declaring citizen ship, the passport chages on the 21 st birthday.

So you say Obama's fight the smears is dishonest and factcheck was false also.

snopes is changing their story as you do.

Want me to post a little template how you change stories and twist facts to fit your feelings?

You have also told me that obama's own fightthesmears site is posting falsehoods.

That's the obama way. Like bush said, we needed a new Pres with character. I gues a bad character is character.

I will start a thread that outlines Obama's history/past. we can see how Obama has fudged/twisped on dates and events in his books.