My main disappointment lies reaching back to Newt's "Contract with America". This contract went into great plans and detail to what the Republicans promised to be if they took majority of the House and that after not being the majority in over 40 years!
Where did all the plans and talk go? Nothing maintained. Now they have to prove that is who they are and I'm just not sure they will do it. I think my feelings are the same as many Americans and I know that is the only reason that Obama succeeded to win the White House - people were sick of the Republican party and rightly so!
It sounds good to say let the "liberal" Republicans leave, but those of you who are still Republicans better hope they don't. The reason your party is in the sad shape it is today is because it's been overtaken by Neo-Con wacko's who are ready to go wage war against the entire Middle East. It's concerning and baffling really.
Ronald Reagan gave the Republican party it's finest hour with the "Big Tent" philosophy. It was a wide group of people who didn't agree on all things, but represented a few core values. That IS NOT what the Republican party has become thanks to GWB's RNC and people like Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
The last thing the Republicans need to do is shew-off members just because there not conservative/neo-con enough. That's the major reason you lost so many voters in November.
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It sounds good to say let the "liberal" Republicans leave, but those of you who are still Republicans better hope they don't. The reason your party is in the sad shape it is today is because it's been overtaken by Neo-Con wacko's who are ready to go wage war against the entire Middle East. It's concerning and baffling really.
Ronald Reagan gave the Republican party it's finest hour with the "Big Tent" philosophy. It was a wide group of people who didn't agree on all things, but represented a few core values. That IS NOT what the Republican party has become thanks to GWB's RNC and people like Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
The last thing the Republicans need to do is shew-off members just because there not conservative/neo-con enough. That's the major reason you lost so many voters in November.
Mike,
I think that Boehner is speaking of letting the "liberals" go that do not agree with the basis of the Reagan Republicans. That is my take listening to Cantor, Jindal, etc.
I don't see the "wackos" on the scale you are purporting. What I do see is that the American people are wondering if there are any Reagan Republicans left.
I am tired of the talking about being a Reagan Republican - I now want to see it and I want it proved over the long haul. Otherwise, I'm going Independent, honestly, today, I feel I have moved in that direction more than ever.
Mike,
I think that Boehner is speaking of letting the "liberals" go that do not agree with the basis of the Reagan Republicans. That is my take listening to Cantor, Jindal, etc.
I don't see the "wackos" on the scale you are purporting. What I do see is that the American people are wondering if there are any Reagan Republicans left.
I am tired of the talking about being a Reagan Republican - I now want to see it and I want it proved over the long haul. Otherwise, I'm going Independent, honestly, today, I feel I have moved in that direction more than ever.
I knew I'd persuade you one day.
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The last thing the Republicans need to do is shew-off members just because there not conservative/neo-con enough. That's the major reason you lost so many voters in November.
Wrong.
The reason the Republicans lost is because they became fiscally irresponsible; lost the ability to push laws thru Congress, even with a majority; and the man running for President on the Republican side ran a terrible, completely incompetent campaign.
McCain vs Obama was a nightmare scenario for Republicans. It featured one extreme liberal against another liberal, abeit not extreme.
The campaign reminded me of poor Bob Dole being put against Bill Clinton.
Both Dole and McCain are alike ... they had the personality of a lemon in comparison to their opponents. Clinton and Obama were good orators, gave great speeches and had that charisma that McCain and Dole don't have.
Besides that, McCain's campaign offered nothing to the American people. All he did was whine, whine, whine. Complain, complain, complain. The McCain campaign was incredibly negative.
And it did NOT help having Sara "i let my daughter's boyfriend sleep with her at my house" Palin on the ticket. She made it even MORE negative.
So it's naive for you to say that Republicans, conservative Republicans, were what lost the election.
Not so ... the blame falls on McCain and Palin and their campaign.
The reason the Republicans lost is because they became fiscally irresponsible; lost the ability to push laws thru Congress, even with a majority; and the man running for President on the Republican side ran a terrible, completely incompetent campaign.
McCain vs Obama was a nightmare scenario for Republicans. It featured one extreme liberal against another liberal, abeit not extreme.
The campaign reminded me of poor Bob Dole being put against Bill Clinton.
Both Dole and McCain are alike ... they had the personality of a lemon in comparison to their opponents. Clinton and Obama were good orators, gave great speeches and had that charisma that McCain and Dole don't have.
Besides that, McCain's campaign offered nothing to the American people. All he did was whine, whine, whine. Complain, complain, complain. The McCain campaign was incredibly negative.
And it did NOT help having Sara "i let my daughter's boyfriend sleep with her at my house" Palin on the ticket. She made it even MORE negative.
So it's naive for you to say that Republicans, conservative Republicans, were what lost the election.
Not so ... the blame falls on McCain and Palin and their campaign.
And in turn it's completely short sighted and naive for you to dismiss the 8 years of a Neo-con run Republican party playing any part in costing the Repubs the last election.
I agree on the weaknesses you pointed in the GOP '08 campaign, but I completely disagree that is the reason your party is where it is. The Republican party has been taken over by right wing wacko's that have no tolerance for any other points of view.
So many Republicans claim that the reason voters left the Republican party is because the Republicans got too "liberal" and too fiscally irresponsible. You know, they looked and acted too much like Democrats. Baloney. Why in the world would people who didn't like liberal Republicans go vote for the even more "liberal" Democrats. That doesn't tally out on the adding machine.
They all got so mad at those fiscally irresponsible, liberal Repubs, that they all went way liberal and voted for Democrats?? Seriously?
The Republican party was ran into the ground by out of touch Neo-Cons who believe there isn't anything bombs can't fix, that tax cuts for the top 5% is the solution to every economic issue and refuse to ever believe they're wrong.
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And in turn it's completely short sighted and naive for you to dismiss the 8 years of a Neo-con run Republican party playing any part in costing the Repubs the last election.
I agree on the weaknesses you pointed in the GOP '08 campaign, but I completely disagree that is the reason your party is where it is. The Republican party has been taken over by right wing wacko's that have no tolerance for any other points of view.
So many Republicans claim that the reason voters left the Republican party is because the Republicans got too "liberal" and too fiscally irresponsible. You know, they looked and acted too much like Democrats. Baloney. Why in the world would people who didn't like liberal Republicans go vote for the even more "liberal" Democrats. That doesn't tally out on the adding machine.
They all got so mad at those fiscally irresponsible, liberal Repubs, that they all went way liberal and voted for Democrats?? Seriously?
The Republican party was ran into the ground by out of touch Neo-Cons who believe there isn't anything bombs can't fix, that tax cuts for the top 5% is the solution to every economic issue and refuse to ever believe they're wrong.
I stand by my assessment. The loss in '08 and subsequent win by Obama and Dems wasn't a indictment against conservative Republicans.
I'm a registered Independent ... I left the Republicans in 2004 or 2006, I don't remember when I officially changed my party affiliation ... in my case, I couldn't stand their inability to control spending or move things thru Congress. They became as the Democrats, money and power-hungry.
Again, McCain and the Republicans loss in '08 wasn't about ideologies ... this was about:
1) an incredibly gifted orator - with a teleprompter;
2) a man who offered a motto of encouragement - "Yes We Can;"
3) the fairy tale story of a minority who came from the bottom up to run for the highest office in the land ...
this versus ...
1) an old, grumpy, grouchy-faced, negative veteran of Congress;
2) a man who was tied with the unpopular Bush administration;
3) a man who offered nothing, no hope or vision for America, but only offered criticism of his opponent and tried to win thru fear
Like it or not, a large majority of the population voted for Obama based - not on ideology - but on race.
I heard countless interviews on cable news with people saying how they just "had to vote" for Obama, because he was making "history."
Add to that, Howard Stern and others who sent people in the streets to poll people ... with the completely wrong information. People HAD NO CLUE what Obama's policies were. In several instances, they even thought Obama and PALIN were running together and were happy about that.
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