I noticed something in scripture this morning that I have read many, many times and never noticed. Please explain Matt 12:32 if you can.
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neihther in this world, neither in the world to come."
I thought the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one. That being true how can you blaspheme the Son and be forgiven but not the Holy Ghost?
This seems confusing???
I have to clarify this verse because it is very vague...You said "I thought they were one"....my question is one what? You thought they were one what?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Example...we speak of the Unites States being "One nation under God" when we say the United States is One we mean it is many states that together form one Nation.
One what? One person? One God? One thing? One WHO? One Nature? One Flesh? One Spirit? One manifestation?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Father is Spirit. Spirit is HOW Father exists in His Deity.
Son is Spirit and Flesh. Spirit is the Divine nature of the Father ontologically united with the Human nature.
The Son is for all intents and purposes, fully human. He has a human nature. In the incarnation the Son empties Himself of Deity, not that he stops being God but that means he "puts aside" his diety temporarily for use. He does not use it so he can truly be that humbled human servant Paul talks of.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Example...we speak of the Unites States being "One nation under God" when we say the United States is One we mean it is many states that together form one Nation.
One what? One person? One God? One thing? One WHO? One Nature? One Flesh? One Spirit? One manifestation?
You make a good point here, but this is also what many trinity folks teach 3 seperate offices in one, which is also what many OP teach as well. I do know there are a few trinitiarns that teach three separate people, but most I know don't believe that.
So my question is since we believe Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is one, how can one be forgiven and the other not?
Is one part of the 3 offices, if you will, have a higher ranking?
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You make a good point here, but this is also what many trinity folks teach 3 seperate offices in one, which is also what many OP teach as well. I do know there are a few trinitiarns that teach three separate people, but most I know don't believe that.
So my question is since we believe Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is one, how can one be forgiven and the other not?
Is one part of the 3 offices, if you will, have a higher ranking?
The Trinity is NOT three offices in one...again the question still is in one what? A lot of people don't really know theology.
Trinitarians teach there is one God...numerically one God. That God is one essence (Spirit), being and Divine nature. That One God being is Tri PERSONAL....three persons.
An office is nothing more than a title. You can have the office of being a mother, sister and admin....That isn't even Oneness either.
For in Oneness the Son is more than a title. The Son has a real tangable existence.
Again you said
since we believe Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is one
And I ask...one what? I don't believe Father, Son and Holy ghost is one
I believe there is One personal God whose existence is Transcendent and Divine in nature.
He was incarnate and became the Son by adding a Human nature to His own person, which made him essentially human like us, yet without sin.
That answers the question. To blaspheme the Son and it not being held against you is to take into consideration that the Son has a human nature. God, Spirit...Father...is God existing ONLY in His Diety apart from the human nature
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Notice that the warning is incomplete. It leaves us hanging, as to whether blaspheming the Father is forgivable. Well, I, for one, am not taking any chances: whenever I blaspheme, the target will be neither the Spirit nor the Father!
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