Evil Triumphs When Good People Do Nothing

[tv1a]

Politics is one thing dirty pool is another. These want to destroy what God is doing in my community. They have already convicted my pastor without a trial. If you were in that meeting with mj and dk, you would have been sick.

On the bright side, the past two sundays, we have had more non church guests and first time guest since in service. Our youth group has expanded above fifty. We've had powerful moves of God. Lives were impacted. Chains were broken. So we are reaching the world.

My mantra compared with Nehamiah's mantra. A sword in one hand, a hammer in the other. The spirit of Tobias and Sanballat won't be defeated any other way.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I personally know almost all of the people in this blog. I have preached in this church. My advice, don't give them (the detractors) the time of day. They can't do anything without formal charges and then a huge "trial" would take place. The UPCI does NOT want that to happen. The pastor needs to tell them to produce the charges or leave him alone. If the pastor has congregational backing, they can always leave the org and just reach the lost.

Let the political play politics and the silly little games. There's a world to reach!!! Go get 'em!!!

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Politics is one thing dirty pool is another. These want to destroy what God is doing in my community. They have already convicted my pastor without a trial. If you were in that meeting with mj and dk, you would have been sick.

On the bright side, the past two sundays, we have had more non church guests and first time guest since in service. Our youth group has expanded above fifty. We've had powerful moves of God. Lives were impacted. Chains were broken. So we are reaching the world.

My mantra compared with Nehamiah's mantra. A sword in one hand, a hammer in the other. The spirit of Tobias and Sanballat won't be defeated any other way.

They CAN'T convict your pastor without a trial. It's illegal and against the manual. If you attack them, you will lose...not because they have more power, but because as you sow, you will reap. Just do what God has called you to do and leave the judgement to others. Don't let them control you or what you do or you will get infected with bitterness. I know this sounds hard and maybe difficult, but it is the only way to true freedom and victory.

[tv1a]

I know you mean well. I believe 100% that God has called me to this battle. God knows my heart. He has given me insight on their mentality. The enemy acts no different than bullies at the work place. It's hard to explain, but the only way to stop the mess is with a showdown.

I'm standing against this evil because of the hundreds of people who have been adversely affected by the past history of the church and the hundreds more that will be affected in the future. I'm fighting for my children's spiritual heritage.

I've been through a lot worse than this in the name of religion to get bitter.

My motives are pure. My heart is right. I'm willing to fight to the death to protect God's work in my community. When this is over the enemy will have to watch while sets up a table for me while they are watching.

I discovered scriptural precedence for my actions. Moses had Joshua, David had Joab. Joshua and Joab risked everything for the leader God put over them. Jehu was one of the dirtiest characters in the Bible, yet God used him to overthrow a government.

For the record, the district threw their rules out the window. Sine they establised the parameters, victory will be much sweeter as they fall to their death with the sword they intended to kill the move of God in my community.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

They CAN'T convict your pastor without a trial. It's illegal and against the manual. If you attack them, you will lose...not because they have more power, but because as you sow, you will reap. Just do what God has called you to do and leave the judgement to others. Don't let them control you or what you do or you will get infected with bitterness. I know this sounds hard and maybe difficult, but it is the only way to true freedom and victory.

[TRFrance]

TV, I was interested in this part of your blog:

During the Konkle era, God revealed to me some techniques to help people who desire the gift of the Holy Ghost. As I begin to implement these strategies under the anointing of the Holy Ghost, people were getting the Holy Ghost in a matter of minutes. People were not struggling, seeking, tarrying, waiting. If a person wanted the Holy Ghost, I would share with them what they needed to do. I would encourage them while they pray.

I know I do not have the power to give the Holy Ghost, but I do have the ability to help a person reach the place in their worship where they speak in tongues. We know the Bible shows tongues is the verbal evidence of the Holy Ghost.

From 2002-2004, it is estimated 150 people were baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost. I was honored not only to witness, but be instrumental as a tool in God’s hands in close to 140 people initial Holy Ghost experience.

Would you mind sharing with us, either here or on a new thread, some of these techniques you implemented to help people to receive the Holy Ghost? I'd be very interested in hearing them. Thanks.

[tv1a]

UPDATE:

Put a prayer request on WVWNOP about God protecting my pastor and my church against the attack of the enemy. Would you know a former member of our church, who hasn't been to our church in over five years sends me a "friendly" e-mail. It's funny how she knows what's ""going on"" at my church. Again NO ONE has asked me.

This is the first time I've published private correspondence. Again know the history of the person, and knowing she attends the church where the root of this problem still lies, I have no doubt she has made it public to her minions.

I could not help but notice your prayer request on the WV network of prayer...
I will certainly be praying for you all..... That church has been under attack from the devil for many years now in my opinion......But not the way your are stating.
This pastor has destroyed more families and lives UNLIKE anything I have ever seen.
When people who KNOW truth without a doubt can be dupped by ONE man into giving up everything they ever believed was true,,,,,,,, that is very sad. I am sorry to see that you and your family have been taken as well, I always had utmost respect for you and Lisa, but I have been severely let down! I never thought I would see the day that you would let your children and your wife let down there standards..... I am sorry you are under attack.
And I wrote this out of nothing but a spirit of love and great concern... It is not to late Troy.
Please come to your senses!
I am praying for the Middleport church, I am praying that a wonderful pastor who will preach truth 100% will be sent here to take that church and once again build it back up to what it should and can be...So when you sent out that prayer request............I am not sure you understand what you unleashed!!! Thousands of saints full of the Holy Ghost praying for one purpose!!! I believe you will get your answer. Remember the scripture "The gaits of hell shall NOT prevail against HIS church" !!! and they wont! God will have a truth proclaiming church in this county! So it is time that we as saints start taking back the things that the DEVIL has stole from us! including that church.
Much Prayer

I haven't felt a release in the Holy Ghost to release a response yet. I have it ready in my draft file. I'm still waiting for her pastor to do the right thing and apologize for the lies he spread about my family. I've called, left messages. He won't return my calls. He doesn't want to have a godly resolution. If anyone googles first upc ravenswood wv, you can get the church telephone # to voice your displeasure that he doesn't follow scriptural protocol explicitly outlined in scripture. I've recorded my messages onto a digital recorder. He can't say I haven't been attempting a reconciliation.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by tv1a

UPDATE:

Put a prayer request on WVWNOP about God protecting my pastor and my church against the attack of the enemy. Would you know a former member of our church, who hasn't been to our church in over five years sends me a "friendly" e-mail. It's funny how she knows what's ""going on"" at my church. Again NO ONE has asked me.

This is the first time I've published private correspondence. Again know the history of the person, and knowing she attends the church where the root of this problem still lies, I have no doubt she has made it public to her minions.



I haven't felt a release in the Holy Ghost to release a response yet. I have it ready in my draft file. I'm still waiting for her pastor to do the right thing and apologize for the lies he spread about my family. I've called, left messages. He won't return my calls. He doesn't want to have a godly resolution. If anyone googles first upc ravenswood wv, you can get the church telephone # to voice your displeasure that he doesn't follow scriptural protocol explicitly outlined in scripture. I've recorded my messages onto a digital recorder. He can't say I haven't been attempting a reconciliation.

You're in way over your head here. It's not right for you to try to drag anyone here into what you feel is a fight you must fight. You're making a big mistake and need to just let it go and be about your Father's business. His business is not about revenge and I fear that is exactly what you're trying to do.

[tv1a]

My pastor taught me well. I have no desire for revenge. I am fighting the fires of hell with the fire of the Holy Spirit. My battle is with spirits. My enemy is with spirits. Unfortunately those spirits work thru people. The people operating in revenge are the enemies of God in my community.

Is it worth the fight? Ask the 100 kids who come to our church each week. Ask my children. If they win the future is lost. That's why I'm willing to take no prisoners, hold no quarter to defeat this enemy. Just las ike Jehu did, the enemy of God's work in my community must be slaughtered.

We all know there is scriptural basis for this type of warfare in the heavenlies. If you don't, study it out. Rather interesting.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

You're in way over your head here. It's not right for you to try to drag anyone here into what you feel is a fight you must fight. You're making a big mistake and need to just let it go and be about your Father's business. His business is not about revenge and I fear that is exactly what you're trying to do.

[Falla39]

Victory, victory shall be mine;
Victory, victory shall be mine,
IF I hold my peace, and let (allow, permit)
the Lord to fight my battles.
Victory, victory shall be mine.

But IF we don't let (allow, permit) the LORD (who is well able)
to fight the battles, (spiritual or other) we will not see Victory!
There are alternatives to not allowing GOD to fight our battles.

Not talking about this particular situtation, as I do not know, nor
do I want to know the details. I am speaking in general terms. God
sees it all! He knows the motives, the details. He will judge righteously
for He is ALL-KNOWING, ALL-WISE, ALMIGHTY!!!! This applies to any
situation.

Blessings,

Falla39

[Blubayou]

MOW and Falla have given very sound advice. My limited experience with church/ pastor problems is that so many people are hurt. The scars take years to heal and sometimes never heal. My advice is to put your family first and move to a healthy church as soon as possible. ( I do not know anything of you situation, but this kind of turmoil is not healthy.) I am praying for you and your family.

[MissBrattified]

tv1a,

I agree with MOW here. The biblical guideline is to return good for evil. Do you really believe that "these people" can tear down what God has built? You do not need to defend God. He can do it, and is much more capable than you are.

I was once in the position of being attacked, and I kept my mouth shut. I didn't breathe a word to my fellow saints, or even to my friends. Vicious lies, and attacks against me from the pulpit. And I didn't even let my lip quiver or say one word against the pastor or the other people who participated. 8 years later, the truth came out in a way that not only exonerated me, but shamed every person who ever said a word against me. God took care of it. Not in the time frame I would have liked, but in a much better way than I could have done.

And the great thing is, God has my heart at a place, that when my enemy "fell", I didn't rejoice over it. But I do appreciate God taking up my cause, and trust Him to do it again, if need be.

I recommend taking the blog down, writing every name on it on a prayer list, and asking God to bless every person on the list every morning. And if you can't say it sincerely, pray until you can.

It is not our job to fight these kinds of battles, except on our knees.