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Praxeas · #11 07-25-2008, 01:43 PM

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StillStanding · #12 07-25-2008, 01:48 PM

Which group would the folks at the Azuza St. Revival fit in? You know, the ones who started the modern Pentecostal movement.

Were they considered conservative, moderate, or liberal?

Praxeas · #13 07-25-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

Which group would the folks at the Azuza St. Revival fit in? You know, the ones who started the modern Pentecostal movement.

Were they considered conservative, moderate, or liberal?

Trinitarian or Oneness? Triune formula or Jesus name?

Facial hair or none? Jewelry or none?

1Corinth2v4 · #14 07-25-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I needed to amend the UCs to make it more realistic

Not nice praxeas

Scott Hutchinson · #15 07-25-2008, 09:55 PM

The first church was Christian because they were disciples of Christ,and their lives were based on His teachings.

Carpenter · #16 07-25-2008, 10:03 PM

Sorry, my attention span is too short to get through all that.

theoldpaths · #17 07-26-2008, 12:08 AM

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Do you think the first church was conservative, moderate, or liberal? Let's give you some examples.

Liberal: Adam walks to the pulpit, ready to preach his well prepared message from Genesis 2:17 to the congregation (Eve). "And the word of the Lord says, But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. I am not the Lord over you, you are your own person. You can make your own convictions. You can the fruit in your pocket if you want, but you know what the principle of it is... Just don't eat it. Go ahead and walk around with it, just follow the principle."

Moderate: Adam walks to the pulpit, ready to preach his well prepared message from Genesis 2:17 to the congregation (Eve). "And the word of the Lord says, But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Now, I as a pastor wouldn't carry the fruit around in my pocket, or take the fruit from the tree, and I wouldn't hang around the tree and you surely won't die, but if want to, just remember, don't eat of it."

Ultra Conservative: Adam walks to the pulpit, ready to preach his well prepared message from Genesis 2:17 to the congregation (Eve). "And the word of the Lord says, But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. You shall not only not eat of it, but if ye even touch it, ye shall surely die! Don't even go near it, don't even touch it!"

The first church was conservative!

(WARNING: Just having a little fun, so don't get uptight.)

so what category do you think you are in?
cat. #1: no standards
cat. #2: some standards but not enforced
cat. #3: standards are preached and upheld

God only told Adam not to eat of it; but Eve said in Gen 3 that she was not to eat or touch it. So who told her not to touch it? Is it possible that since God told Adam not to eat of it, that Adam created a rule/standard for Eve not to touch it? There is nothing written that God said anything about not touching it. Did God use Adam to create a rule/standard about not even touching it? Is it within the realm of possibility?

Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

hometown guy · #18 07-26-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by theoldpaths

God only told Adam not to eat of it; but Eve said in Gen 3 that she was not to eat or touch it. So who told her not to touch it? Is it possible that since God told Adam not to eat of it, that Adam created a rule/standard for Eve not to touch it? There is nothing written that God said anything about not touching it. Did God use Adam to create a rule/standard about not even touching it? Is it within the realm of possibility?

Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

this was one of my points

Praxeas · #19 07-26-2008, 02:24 AM

Was Eve lying? Did Adam really say this to her? She said God said it, Was she lying?

the raven · #20 07-26-2008, 03:38 AM

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Was Eve lying? Did Adam really say this to her? She said God said it, Was she lying?

In God's chain of command, Adam was also the pastor...for safety sake or love of his bride he said don't touch it.

Thus when he made the rule and told her, she who had not talked with the Lord took his words as being from the Lord.

The implication being that a pastor makes rules according to his love for the bride and not out of spite or vainglory..at least this should be the condition of the extra rules added.