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Old 05-06-2008, 09:28 AM
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I heard on the Rush Limbaugh show that a professor from Michigan who is Republican is going to vote Democrat for the Primary and will vote for Hillary just to throw the vote away from Obama. Not a bad idea. He is on his own radio show in Michigan and has great influence over many. So this may be a trend. Then in November he will switch back and vote Mc Cain in office.

As far as your question, I know that Hillary is the lessor or the 2 evils. IMHO
Oh, that's mature. Why don't all the Republicans mess with the Dem primaries, and get Peewee Herman nominated? That'll show 'em.
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Even though Obama has been far left in everything he has done, he received the endorsement of a very conservative constitutional scholar last month, Douglas W. Kmiec. Wonder if he (Doug) is looking for a spot on the Supreme Court? My biggest fear with both Obama and Hillary is the Supreme Court. That is one thing that W has done right, he got advice from conservatives about his appointments to the bench. His choices have been better than both Reagan's and his dad's.
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Oh, that's mature. Why don't all the Republicans mess with the Dem primaries, and get Peewee Herman nominated? That'll show 'em.
Timmy, Dems do it too. McCain won several states in 2000 because Dems crossed over and voted for him.
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Timmy, Dems do it too. McCain won several states in 2000 because Dems crossed over and voted for him.
very true, dems dont want to be reminded of the past only the future plans they have to mess everything up, lol,dt
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I definitely think Hilary is the lesser of the two evils. I am concerned about Hilary's hunger for power and her track record when she had a little power. But I am more concerned about Obama's true ideology, his appointments and the people he will surround himself with as president.
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I heard on the Rush Limbaugh show that a professor from Michigan who is Republican is going to vote Democrat for the Primary and will vote for Hillary just to throw the vote away from Obama. Not a bad idea. He is on his own radio show in Michigan and has great influence over many. So this may be a trend. Then in November he will switch back and vote Mc Cain in office.
Rush Limbaugh has been doing it for a while now. Its called Operation Chaos. It seems to be really having an effect too. After winning big on Super Tuesday, Obama should have wrapped up this nomination a long time ago. I think crossover Republicans voting for Hillary has helped her hang in there and prolong the fight. (Of course this Jeremiah Wright dude probably had a little something to do with it too. )
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Even though Obama has been far left in everything he has done, he received the endorsement of a very conservative constitutional scholar last month, Douglas W. Kmiec. Wonder if he (Doug) is looking for a spot on the Supreme Court? My biggest fear with both Obama and Hillary is the Supreme Court. That is one thing that W has done right, he got advice from conservatives about his appointments to the bench. His choices have been better than both Reagan's and his dad's.
Indeed. I think most people are overlooking the significance of that.
some bad decisions by a president might have an effect for a few years, and sometimes can can be undone by the next president...

But since a president's Supreme Court appointments are permanent, a bunch of bad SC appointments can have harmful effects on our nation for an entire generation and beyond!

8 years of Obama could be a nightmare for America. He'd probably get to appoint at least 2 (and maybe even 3!) liberal judges during that time, and it would shift America even more in the wrong direction.
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Indeed. I think most people are overlooking the significance of that.
some bad decisions by a president might have an effect for a few years, and sometimes can can be undone by the next president...

But since a president's Supreme Court appointments are permanent, a bunch of bad SC appointments can have harmful effects on our nation for an entire generation and beyond!

8 years of Obama could be a nightmare for America. He'd probably get to appoint at least 2 (and maybe even 3!) liberal judges during that time, and it would shift America even more in the wrong direction.
John Paul Stevens is 88 years old

Antonin Scalia is 72

Anthony M. Kennedy is 72

David H. Souter is 68

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75

Stephen G. Breyer is 68

Fortunately, of the oldest members only one is a true conservative (Scalia) and Kennedy is a wild card. Ginsburg looks and sounds bad. I was in the court last year when she had to be helped off the bench.
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A lot of times people think the only thing the Supreme Court impacts is Abortion. that simply is wrong. In fact while important to most of us here, Abortion is a very minor part of the story.

Liberal Judges have for the last half century worked to make the court into a second and even more powerful legislative branch of government.

That isn’t the role of the court but it has become its role repeatedly.

The simple fact is, with that kind of attitude, 5 people who never face election have the power to make any decision they want to make, without facing any repercussion.

Currently liberals have virtually abandoned passing legislation that would outlaw handguns… but that doesn’t mean they have given up. Instead, they wait for the day when 5 members of the U. S. Supreme Court will outlaw handguns.

Liberals will appoint justices that think their job is to advocate for various groups. That IS NOT what the court is supposed to be about. It is about making sure the law is legal. Nothing more.
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A lot of times people think the only thing the Supreme Court impacts is Abortion. that simply is wrong. In fact while important to most of us here, Abortion is a very minor part of the story.

Liberal Judges have for the last half century worked to make the court into a second and even more powerful legislative branch of government.

That isn’t the role of the court but it has become its role repeatedly.

The simple fact is, with that kind of attitude, 5 people who never face election have the power to make any decision they want to make, without facing any repercussion.

Currently liberals have virtually abandoned passing legislation that would outlaw handguns… but that doesn’t mean they have given up. Instead, they wait for the day when 5 members of the U. S. Supreme Court will outlaw handguns.

Liberals will appoint justices that think their job is to advocate for various groups. That IS NOT what the court is supposed to be about. It is about making sure the law is legal. Nothing more.
Amen.

Jay Sekulow likes to say, "Winning at the Supreme Court is easy, all you have to be able to do is count to five." We are fortunate right now to have 4 conservatives and Kennedy who after several years of being on the liberal majority seems to be more inclined to vote with the conservative justices.

Ferd if you are interested the recent second amendment case audio is available on www.oyez.org

This is one of the most interesting cases I have heard in a long time.
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