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Old 03-15-2008, 02:48 PM
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Thank you for these encouraging and affirming words, Sister.

It's high time people stopped feeling like they need to say anything kind about conservatives.
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Old 03-15-2008, 02:49 PM
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All in all, there are two distinct definitions of "conservative" as it relates to the church. One kind is very good (as it relates to the initial post) and the other is very bad.
For instance, some of the most "conservative" people I know would be considered flaming liberals by many definitions and other "conservatives" I know need to be called by their rightful name, pharisees.
I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.
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Old 03-15-2008, 02:55 PM
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I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.
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Old 03-15-2008, 03:07 PM
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I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.
I just leave other folks in Gods hands. I finally figured out it's * Not My Job*
I do have my *Special Prayer List* though and I've added several to it since joining here at AFF.
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:11 PM
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I just leave other folks in Gods hands. I finally figured out it's * Not My Job*
I do have my *Special Prayer List* though and I've added several to it since joining here at AFF.
You go sis, we sure need it.
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:13 PM
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Nice observations. I agree with them.

But I am going to make a prediction here... This thread won't last long... UNLESS it turns from "What I love about conservatives" to "What I DON'T like about conservatives."
Yep, it already happened. And of course with the usual disclaimers. Can't have a nice list of qualities because that would make some that aren't conservative really have to look at their attitudes.
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I'm considered conservative by some because I believe the new birth is the baptisms, water and Spirit. But as for "holiness dress" standards, I follow an individual conviction approach.
I speak only for myself. When I say 'conservative' in this context I am referring to the 'holiness standards' continuum. In my book the godhead and salvation issues are not related to the 'holiness standards' thing. So, by my estimation, you can be an OP, three-step person and be either liberal or conservative or anything in between. You can be a trinitarian, one-step person and be liberal or conservative or anything in between as well. I don't connect the two, although I know that some people do.

{BTW: I talked to a trusted spiritual advisor today about what you and I were discussing earlier. Interesting.}

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All in all, there are two distinct definitions of "conservative" as it relates to the church. One kind is very good (as it relates to the initial post) and the other is very bad.
For instance, some of the most "conservative" people I know would be considered flaming liberals by many definitions and other "conservatives" I know need to be called by their rightful name, pharisees.
True, true. I agree with everything you're saying here. I do keep in mind however, that even among the Pharisees there were those who believed in Christ. Those are my spiritual kin. And there were many among the hookers and cheats who believed. They're my kin too. Please understand, I'm agreeing w/you here and attempting to support what you're saying.

My personal point in starting this thread was to confess that my attitude has changed toward my conservative spiritual kin folk. I'm beginning to weigh them more in terms of their good qualities than their negative ones. Well, most of them anyway. It's a process.
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1. Their passion for what they believe to be true.
2. Their courage for speaking out in spite of rejection and possible ridicule from others.
3. Their dedication to God and what they believe to be true about him.
4. Their concern for the spiritual welfare of people.
5. Their tenacity that makes me keep thinking and sharpening my position.
So I would say #2 and #5 don't seem as true anymore. It seems that unless everyone thinks like them or unless they are the majority they run away and THEN claim the board is not conservative enough.
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Re: What I love about conservatives...

Well another one bites the dust.
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