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Old 02-25-2008, 10:30 AM
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TR, while I dont know if DA is serious, I do know that Che doesnt make the rank and file democrat's stomach turn.
True, but he makes the stomachs of not only conservatives, but many moderates, turn.

I think if the Republicans portray Obama as being as far to the left as he really is, he might not be as much of a shoo-in as many people now think.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:31 AM
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We may have to get used to hearing those terrible words.

To me, its a scary thought, that this man could be elected President of The United States less than 9 months from now. But it's starting to look more and more likely.

Latest poll numbers have Obama leading McCain by an average of 4.5%.
Interestingly, polls show McCain beating Hillary, but losing to Obama.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo.../national.html

I know polls can't always be relied on, but when 6 out of 7 major national polls have Obama winning, that's something we shouldn't totally ignore.

God help America if this ultra-liberal/socialist becomes president.


John McCain (R) vs. Barack Obama (D)

Poll- Date- Spread

RCP Average 02/07 to 02/20Obama +4.5%
FOX News 02/19 - 02/20 Obama +4%
Hotline/FD 02/14 - 02/17 Obama +8%
Reuters/Zogby 02/13 - 02/16 Obama +7%
USA Today/Gallup 02/08 - 02/10 Obama +4%
AP-Ipsos 02/07 - 02/10 Obama +6%
Rasmussen (Sun) 4 Day Tracking McCain +2%



Well, what are we to do?

The conservative voice in America is waning.

There are forces in our world beyond our control.

Netanyahu and others feel we have a very short time before radical Islam rules the entire world - including America.

Europe is crumbling under its power, and no one in America seems to have the will necessary to combat its spread.

It truly is comparable to Hitler in 1938. He told everyone his intentions, yet no one believed he would actually follow through with his threats.

These current madmen are serious, and will not rest until we are destroyed.

People get ready, there's a train coming.


And Obama, Clinton and McCain are just minor players with no real will to attempt a defense.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:32 AM
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The the skin color thing is less and less of an issue today. But maybe his inexperience is a good reason for him to lose (not to mention his ultra liberal views being out of touch with much of middle America).

I mean, would you give the keys to your Mercedes to someone who just got their drivers license yesterday?
TR, as far as I am concerned a persons skin color means ziltch.

Louisiana just righted a wrong they did by not electing Bobby Jindal 4 years ago. (they just elected him 2 hurricans's too late)

I was mad as a wet hin when he was defeated the last time. and he lost because he was Indian and no other reason.

but I would not vote for Barak Obama for dog catcher. he is a massive liberal with vertually NO experience.

The good news is he is smart. when he utterly fails, they wont be able to blame his lack of intelegence. they will have to accept the fact that it is the stupid liberal policies that are wrong.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:33 AM
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TR, as far as I am concerned a persons skin color means ziltch.

Louisiana just righted a wrong they did by not electing Bobby Jindal 4 years ago. (they just elected him 2 hurricans's too late)

I was mad as a wet hin when he was defeated the last time. and he lost because he was Indian and no other reason.

but I would not vote for Barak Obama for dog catcher. he is a massive liberal with vertually NO experience.

The good news is he is smart. when he utterly fails, they wont be able to blame his lack of intelegence. they will have to accept the fact that it is the stupid liberal policies that are wrong.
McKain doesn't have a chance agains the momentum of Obama's candidacy.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:34 AM
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The regional office of a political party and it's decor is not not necessarily representative of the candidate ...

Are there pictures of Robert E. Lee in the offices of politicos in South Carolina? There are confederate flags for sure.

Or pictures of David Duke and Strom Thurman in a Republican office.

Let's be real.
I am being real. You're missing my point, unless maybe you're just trying to be contrary as you seem to so often do.

The concept is simple "birds of a feather flock together".

The issue is that by his supporters brazenly having Che Guevara flags for all to see, they're displaying a far-left socialist bent that is out of touch with most of the American population.

Now you get real.. if there was a Nazi flag in Huckabee's campaign office, you dont think it would/should raise eyebrows?
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Well, what are we to do?

The conservative voice in America is waning.

There are forces in our world beyond our control.

Netanyahu and others feel we have a very short time before radical Islam rules the entire world - including America.

Europe is crumbling under its power, and no one in America seems to have the will necessary to combat its spread.

It truly is comparable to Hitler in 1938. He told everyone his intentions, yet no one believed he would actually follow through with his threats.

These current madmen are serious, and will not rest until we are destroyed.

People get ready, there's a train coming.


And Obama, Clinton and McCain are just minor players with no real will to attempt a defense.

these are great points.

sadly conservitism is waining because elected conservitives decided they couldnt keep power as cons. that was wrong on their point.
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Alter Ego,

I think it is incumbent upon us as Christians to support the canidates who have a reasonable chance of winning that best reflect Christian values. That is really all we can do.

If Christians throw away their votes on fringe 3rd party canidates or stay home on election day they have speeded up the move you described by allowing the election of liberal forces.

An example of this is the effect the midget Perot had on the 1992 election when he split the vote and insured Bill Clinton won even though Clinton had less than 40% of the popular vote.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:36 AM
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i agree, skin color dont matter, it is what he believes and he believes in socailism, if condi ran i would vote for her in a minute, and she is a woman and............., i rest my case, i vote for the person not the color of there skin, dt
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I am being real. You're missing my point, unless maybe you're just trying to be contrary as you seem to so often do.

The concept is simple "birds of a feather flock together".

The issue is that by his supporters brazenly having Che Guevara flags for all to see, they're displaying a far-left socialist bent that is out of touch with most of the American population.

Now you get real.. if there was a Nazi flag in Huckabee's campaign office, you dont think it would/should raise eyebrows?
There are extremists on both sides ... so to use the affinities of those on the extreme is irresponsible ...

Most Americans will vote based on the moderate values they know ... and the beauty of our system is that candidates are accountable to their constituents.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:37 AM
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McKain doesn't have a chance agains the momentum of Obama's candidacy.
You may be right but I don't think Obama can keep up the smoke and mirrors in the general election.

He has teeny bobbers all excited but what happens when he starts having to be specific? When he can't just intone "Hope!" and "Change!" at every stop.

There is also a chance that when adult voters start really thinking about a guy with just two years experience in the Senate and just state legislator experience before that heading up America in these difficult times they may prefer McCain.

I agree Obama has great momemtum but remember all of this adoration is from base Democrats who are very left wing anyway.
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