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01-09-2008, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Did the apostles and the first century Christians take part in the entertianment of the first century Roman Empire?
In Jesus name
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Paul mentioned and compared his walk with several things in the early olympic games.
He "ran his race" He spoke of recieving "a crown"
Paul said he fought, not as one that "beat the air" ( an early olympic sport)
He even said "lay aside every wieght" (The early olmpians in rome would lay aside the wieght of thei clothing to be able to run faster)
If you are trying to paint Paul as a wacked out Ultra Con, I don't think he was.
He missed great oportunities to condemn those sports he made reference to..BUT he did not.
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01-09-2008, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
You can be Apostolic and NOT be a Christian but you CANNOT be a Christian and NOT be Apostolic.
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That made my head spin:
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01-09-2008, 10:44 AM
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I'm pretty sure he meant it the other way around, of course, don't want to be putting words in his mouth.
Apostolic beliefs and actions are inclusive of being a Christian or disciple of Jesus. When one says they are Apostolic, I take it for granted that they are Christian and strive to be a disciple of Jesus. The apostles had already experienced this previous to the day of Pentecost.
Neck, is Apostolic a dirty word to you?
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01-09-2008, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
I'm pretty sure he meant it the other way around, of course, don't want to be putting words in his mouth.
Apostolic beliefs and actions are inclusive of being a Christian or disciple of Jesus. When one says they are Apostolic, I take it for granted that they are Christian and strive to be a disciple of Jesus. The apostles had already experienced this previous to the day of Pentecost.
Neck, is Apostolic a dirty word to you?
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Not a bad word. I can tell you the PCI and PA-JC decided to leave it out of newly formed organization name. Becasue of the negative view of the term in the 40's.
They did not think highly of using it so why the buzz today....
Call yourself Pentecostal/Oneness...
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01-09-2008, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
Not a bad word. I can tell you the PCI and PA-JC decided to leave it out of newly formed organization name. Becasue of the negative view of the term in the 40's.
They did not think highly of using it so why the buzz today....
Call yourself Pentecostal/Oneness...
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Okay.
I think Pentecostal is a buzz word today, too popular. Apostolic holds someone to more depth, ironically (in light of what you have posted), in following Jesus. Pentecostals believe in the day of pentecost only, too many times.
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01-09-2008, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
To preach-practice-live the doctrine of the Apostles. NOT just but including Acts 2:38 as the ONLY saving message in this dispensation. |
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01-09-2008, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
You can be Apostolic and NOT be a Christian but you CANNOT be a Christian and NOT be Apostolic.
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01-09-2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
You can be Apostolic and NOT be a Christian but you CANNOT be a Christian and NOT be Apostolic.
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Really?
So, you feel someone can be Apostolic by your definition and not be a Christian?
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It was said elsewhere on this thread that to be Apostolic one must "preach, practice and live" what the Apostles preach. Then, here, we find one can be Apostolic and not be a Christian. Isn't "preaching, practicing, and living" what the Apostles taught the same thing as being a Christain? How is one Apostolic but not a Christian?
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01-09-2008, 12:32 PM
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DOING THE FIRST WORKS
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An Apostle is one who is sent...
Sent by whom? Answer: Jesus...Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel. He that believeth and is baptized, the same shall be saved. He that believeth not shall be damed. These signs...(the Apostolic SIGNS) that Paul said that he had in his ministry, shall follow them that BELIEVE (practice and preach the Gospel) in my name they shall...(work miracles).
So, the definition of Apostolic, in short, are those who BELIEVE THE GOSPEL, GO PREACH IT and WORK MIRACLES in the name of Jesus.
Some folk think that being Apostolic is preaching the Apostles. 
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01-09-2008, 12:40 PM
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To be apostolic you will preach Acts 2:38 as being the ONLY way to be saved. You will also believe in one God. Also, I think that you must believe in holiness inside and out.
That Bible says, Ps 24:3-4
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands (outward holiness), and a pure heart (inward holiness); who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
KJV
If are really going to be apostolic we will have both.
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