Public school and the Christian parent

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

I whent too a peublic skool and I tuned our grape?

I too! I granulated and got my delima.

[shag]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

I whent too a peublic skool and I tuned our grape?

Originally Posted by Aquila

I too! I granulated and got my delima.

Solidifying genuine academic statistics

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Home schooling parents don't purchase a curriculum for their children?

Chris, if their are people who post all day on their employers computer, does that indicate that everyone steals time from their employer?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've seen your wife. I think you're jealous.

You must be pretty scorched for you to go after Sister B.

[houston]

did you report the post?

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You must be pretty scorched for you to go after Sister B.

[Esaias]

https://www.thecollegefix.com/school...le-ix-lawsuit/

A federal court permitted a lawsuit to proceed against an Illinois school district that allows high school boys to use girls’ locker rooms, restrooms and showers in order to accommodate transgender students.

But girls who don’t want to be seen naked by boys got bad news: The judge ruled that they have no right to “visual bodily privacy” if the government says so.

If you think Sunday School flannelgraphs and bedtime Bible stories are appropriate defenses against the manifested Power of Darkness, your children will suffer what you deserve.

Parents who continue to place their children in the hands of the American public school system are literally bought and paid for slaves.

[Esaias]

From the same article:

Township High School District 211 did not initially choose to let biological males look at females in a partial or total state of undress.

The Obama administration’s Department of Education threatened to take away federal funding in 2015 unless the school district changed its policy. It received $6 million in 2014.

Parents, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

[Esaias]

Modern Public Education
an Abomination to God,
bringing the threat of hellfire
upon all parents who send their children
to Public Schools;
with Scriptural proofs, and objections answered.

All Scripture quotations from the King James Version.

Parents who send their children to public school are in danger of hellfire. They are in danger as much as the adulterer, thief, fornicator, or idolater are in danger. They may escape the judgment of God if they repent, but if they refuse to repent they will die in their sins. Thus, parents who send their children to public school will die in their sins and be eternally lost unless they repent.

I shall demonstrate that,
1 God holds parents accountable for their children's education and upbringing.
2 God holds parents accountable for what others teach their children.
3 God commands Christian, Biblical education of children.
4 Those who teach children to sin are damned unless they repent.
5 Those who allow children to be taught to sin are likewise damned unless they repent.
6 Public education is designed to teach children to sin.
7 Public education is controlled by the wicked.
8 All objections are useless – whether the good school district excuse; the salt and light excuse; the sunday school excuse; the family influence and devotions excuse; the exception excuse; the can't afford private school excuse; the can't homeschool excuse; or the state forbids it excuse.
9 All objections being refuted, it follows that parents who send their children to public school hate their children in their heart, which makes them doubly guilty of sin.
10 The responsibility of parents; churches; ministers/teachers; children is clear.

1 God holds parents accountable for their children's education and upbringing:

Deuteronomy 6:6-7 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: (7) And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

Nurture: paideia
Thayer's Definition:
1) the whole training and education of children (which relates to the cultivation of mind and morals, and employs for this purpose now commands and admonitions, now reproof and punishment) It also includes the training and care of the body
2) whatever in adults also cultivates the soul, especially by correcting mistakes and curbing passions.
2a) instruction which aims at increasing virtue
2b) chastisement, chastening, (of the evils with which God visits men for their amendment)

“Bring them up, etc - Εκτρεφετε αυτα εν παιδειᾳ και νουθεσια Κυριου· literally, Nourish them in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. The mind is to be nourished with wholesome discipline and instruction, as the body is with proper food. Παιδεια, discipline, may refer to all that knowledge which is proper for children, including elementary principles and rules for behavior, etc. Νουθεσια, instruction, may imply whatever is necessary to form the mind; to touch, regulate, and purify the passions; and necessarily includes the whole of religion. Both these should be administered in the Lord - according to his will and word, and in reference to his eternal glory. All the important lessons and doctrines being derived from his revelation, therefore they are called the discipline and instruction of the Lord.” (Clarke's Commentary)

“But bring them up - Place them under such discipline and instruction that they shall become acquainted with the Lord.
In the nurture - ἐν παιδεία en paideia. The word used here means “training of a child;” hence education, instruction, discipline. Here it means that they are to train up their children in such a manner as the Lord approves; that is, they are to educate them for virtue and religion.” (Barne's Notes)

Parents are commanded to teach their children, therefore they are accountable for their children's education, it's content, and morality. The education of children is nowhere mandated in scripture to anyone but parents. Anyone else who teaches children does so as proxies of the parents, and therefore as their agents. Therefore whatever is taught, the parents are accountable for.

2 God holds parents accountable for what others teach their children. Already proven above, but now more fully demonstrated:

Revelation 2:14-16 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. (15) So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. (16) Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Revelation 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Christ had a few things against the angels of the churches of Pergamos and Thyatira because they allowed people to teach His servants to commit fornication and be involved in false religion. The angel of the church was responsible for what was being taught, even though he himself was not doing the actual, direct teaching. How much more will parents be responsible for what is being taught to the children He has given them, even if they themselves are not doing the direct, actual teaching itself? If the children are being taught immorality and false religious ideas (such as evolution, atheism, agnosticism, etc) then the Lord will have more than just a 'few things' against the parents! Those given the oversight of others are responsible for what is taught their charges by hired proxies and agents (such as the public school system). If wickedness is taught, then not only are the teachers guilty, but so are the ones who knowingly allow such wickedness to be taught to those entrusted in their care. And thus the angel of the church is told to repent for allowing false teachers to seduce those under his care, and parents likewise are to repent for allowing false teachers to seduce the children under their care. A command to repent implies one will be lost if they do not, for unless you repent you will die in your sins.

3 God commands Christian, Biblical education of children.

Deuteronomy 6:6-7 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: (7) And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

Deuteronomy 11:18-19 (18) Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. (19) And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

Parents are commanded to ensure they teach their children the ways of God, and are commanded to bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. As before shown, “nurture” means the paidea, or whole system of instructing and educating children. The child's education is to be specifically Biblical and Christian. Failure to give one's children a Christian, Biblical education is a violation of the commands of God, and therefore sin. And unrepented sin will drown the soul in the lake of fire.

[Esaias]

4 Those who teach children to sin are damned unless they repent.

Luke 17:1-2 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! (2) It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

σκανδαλίζω
skandalizō
To scandalize; from G4625; to entrap, that is, trip up (figuratively stumble [transitively] or entice to sin, apostasy or displeasure): - (make to) offend. (Strong's Concordance)

To offend is not merely to annoy, but to cause someone to stumble or entice someone to sin and apostasy. It would be better for a person to be drowned in the sea, that is, to die a horrible death, than to cause a little one to stumble or entice them to sin. Why? Because dying a horrible death is not to be compared to being cast into the lake of fire on Judgment Day, that's why. One may die a horrible death, yet still be saved and enjoy eternal life. But dying a horrible death can only be better than not dying a horrible death, if the one who does not die a horrible death nevertheless dies in their sin, eternally lost. Thus, causing one of these little ones to offend, that is to say, to trip up or stumble or entice to sin or apostasy, will certainly result in a fate worse than a horrible death – it will result in eternal death for the one through whom the offence comes.

1 Samuel 12:23 Moreover as for me, God forbid that I should sin against the LORD in ceasing to pray for you: but I will teach you the good and the right way:

Samuel, as a prophet, raised in the service of the priesthood from birth, was appointed by God to pray for and to teach Israel the good and right way, the ways of the Lord. He would have been sinning against God if he failed to do his duty. How much more sinful would it have been for him to actively teach Israel to sin and forsake God? Those who are responsible for teaching are required to ensure a Biblical, godly education for those they are supposed to be teaching. Whoever teaches is required to teach the good and right way, and not sin, immorality, wickedness and unbelief. Therefore, whoever teaches anyone to sin, sins against the Lord. How much more damnable are those who teach children to sin, and lead them into unbelief and immorality? How much more those who, responsible for teaching children the ways of God, instead pawn them off on the wicked to teach them to sin?

2 Kings 21:10-12 And the LORD spake by his servants the prophets, saying, (11) Because Manasseh king of Judah hath done these abominations, and hath done wickedly above all that the Amorites did, which were before him, and hath made Judah also to sin with his idols: (12) Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.

King Manasseh committed “abominations”, and had “done wickedly above all that the Amorites (Canaanites) did”. Part of his abominable sin was to make others sin, by encouraging sin and idolatry and departing from the Lord. To entice others to sin is abomination and wickedness, and the Lord will repay such sinfulness with vengeance. How much more to those who entice children to sin by departing from the Lord, and following false gods, and denying the Lord God, and to practice immorality and fornication?

5 Those who allow their children to be taught to sin are likewise damned unless they repent.
This follows from all that has been shown already. To allow someone to teach others to sin makes one a partaker in their sins.

1 Samuel 2:12-17 Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the LORD. (13) And the priests' custom with the people was, that, when any man offered sacrifice, the priest's servant came, while the flesh was in seething, with a fleshhook of three teeth in his hand; (14) And he struck it into the pan, or kettle, or caldron, or pot; all that the fleshhook brought up the priest took for himself. So they did in Shiloh unto all the Israelites that came thither. (15) Also before they burnt the fat, the priest's servant came, and said to the man that sacrificed, Give flesh to roast for the priest; for he will not have sodden flesh of thee, but raw. (16) And if any man said unto him, Let them not fail to burn the fat presently, and then take as much as thy soul desireth; then he would answer him, Nay; but thou shalt give it me now: and if not, I will take it by force. (17) Wherefore the sin of the young men was very great before the LORD: for men abhorred the offering of the LORD.

The sons of Eli the priest were sinning, and causing people to turn away from God. Their sin was “very great before the Lord”. It is a very great sin before the Lord to cause others to abhor the worship of God. But Eli was responsible for his sons, and did not intervene to put a definite stop to their wickedness. So God judged not only them, but Eli as well:

1 Samuel 3:11-14 And the LORD said to Samuel, Behold, I will do a thing in Israel, at which both the ears of every one that heareth it shall tingle. (12) In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house: when I begin, I will also make an end. (13) For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not. (14) And therefore I have sworn unto the house of Eli, that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be purged with sacrifice nor offering for ever.

How much more parents, who are responsible for teaching their children, and who have hired teachers to be their proxies and agents that teach wickedness and ungodliness to their children, and who refuse to put a stop to it by at least removing their children from the influence of such teachers? Judgment will come upon those who lead others away from God, as well as upon those who are responsible for those teachers who lead others away from God.

[Esaias]

6 Public education is designed to teach children to sin.
This hardly needs proving, but consider the facts: The public education system was created and designed by ungodly and wicked men for the express purpose of indoctrinating children into the tenets and beliefs of those ungodly men. And this continues today, as the lies of evolution, “gay rights”, transgenderism, polytheism and atheism and agnosticism, socialism, statism, and practically every other abomination are drilled into young minds, 6 and a half hours per day, 5 days a week, 180+ days a year, for 12 years of the most formative and impressionable and important part of their lives. Here is proof the public education system in place today is intentionally designed and managed for the express purpose of destroying Christian and Biblical values, eradicating holiness, and leading children away not only from their parents, but especially from God. Consider these statements:

Newman, an international journalist and educator, said people are mistaken if they think American public schools are secular or impartial toward different religions. He said schools do try to force a religion on children, but it’s not Christianity; rather, it is humanism.
It all goes back to the famous American education reformer John Dewey, according to Newman. Dewey was one of the signers of the Humanist Manifesto, the very first plank of which reads, “Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.” From there, the manifesto goes on to thoroughly reject most of the beliefs of Christianity and theism in general. It also calls for a “socialized and cooperative economic order” to replace the “existing acquisitive and profit-motivated society.”
Dewey’s humanist beliefs have trickled down into today’s U.S. public education system, according to Newman.
“This Humanist Manifesto really has become kind of a template and religious humanism is being taught in the schools,” he declared. “And people think humanism’s not a religion. Well, it is a religion. It has been found to be a religion by the courts because it is a religion. It has articles of faith. It is based on faith; there’s no actual evidence to support these ridiculous notions that there is no god or that we need to surrender private property or that we came from monkeys.”
Humanist author John Dunphy explicitly laid out the humanists’ plan when he wrote the following in the Humanist Magazine in 1983:
“[A] viable alternative to [Christianity] must be sought. That alternative is humanism. I am convinced that the battle for humankind’s future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: a religion of humanity that recognizes and respects the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being. These teachers must embody the same selfless dedication as the most rabid fundamentalist preachers, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach, regardless of the educational level.” Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/expert-go...KKLjLVdxKWO.99

Here's another interesting bit of information:

Perhaps the best known of the reformers who pushed the agenda of the public schools was Robert Owen. Owen (sometimes called the father of modern socialism) denounced all religion as the chief cause of human misery. In 1830 he wrote, “Now, when the effects of religion, as it has been hitherto taught, and imposed upon the human race, shall be followed through all their ramifications, it will be discovered that the religion of the world is the sole cause of all the disunion, hatred, uncharitableness, and crime, which pervade the population of the earth . . . . ” (3)
The salvation of the world (according to Owen’s socialist mind) depended upon the eradication of Biblical education. In order for socialism to take hold in this country (as it now has by way of socialized medicine, Social Security, universal health care, elimination of private property rights, etc.) the populace had to be re-educated. That is, the children of the culture had to be taught to accept socialist principles and programs without seeing the inconsistency of these principles with the true American (Biblical) view. In other words, the children had to be “dumbed-down” so that they would not realize that they were being trained in an un-American view of law and economics and government. The public school movement was the perfect vehicle to accomplish this end.
Another well known proponent of the public schools was Horace Mann. Mann had been reared in Calvinism but rejected it as a young man. To Mann, inequality (not sin) was man’s great enemy. If true equality was to be achieved, he reasoned, there must be equality of education and character. This made public schools, with a common curriculum, an absolute necessity. Mann said, “The common school is the greatest discovery ever made by man . . . . Let the common school be expanded to its capabilities, let it be worked with the efficiency of which it is susceptible, and nine tenths of the crimes in the penal code would become obsolete . . . .” (4)
Contrary to Biblical teaching, Mann believed the state to be the true parent of the child. Thus it was the state that had the primary responsibility of providing education. Along with Mann and some of his followers including Abram Combe and his son Robert Dale Owen, Owen later formed a secret society to work toward attaining his goals. Orestes Brownson, one of the leaders of this society, later wrote about the work of the group:
“The great object was to get rid of Christianity, and to convert our churches into halls of science. The plan was not to make open attacks on religion, although we might belabor the clergy and bring them into contempt where we could; but to establish a system of state — we said national — schools, from which all religion was to be excluded, in which nothing was to be taught but such knowledge as is verifiable by the senses, and to which all parents were to be compelled by law to send their children.” (5)
There you have it quite clearly stated. The purpose and mission of the public schools, which were to be “free to everyone at the expense of everyone,” was to get rid of Christianity, to compel parents to give their children over to the state so that they could be trained to disrespect their parents and their Christian republic and its moral culture without parental interference. For over one hundred and fifty years now, this mission has proceeded apace. Beneath its vacuous rhetoric purporting to “care about the kids”, this is the current mission of the National Education Association. And they are doing it quite well, thank you very much.
https://www.theamericanview.com/gove...-christianity/