Dave Bernard addresses beards

[Digging4Truth]

I haven't read this entire thread so this may already have been touched on...

But... if this is true... then over time opinion will finally begin to change towads beards and then it will be said...

"Well... we never said it was a sin."

[CC1]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I know they don't "allow" it, BUT they don't preach its a sin either.

Since there has never been any bible to preach against it preachers have preached against it on the basis of "rebellion" or it being a hippie thing.

It is probably the one "standards" issue that I have seen logic prevail on in a slow methodical way over the last 20 years.

[dllong]

Originally Posted by CC1

No doubt things are changing and there are a lot more UPC churches that allow men to have facial hair than in the past but it is still not widely accepted.

I would be willing to bet that at some of the churches that "tolerate" facial hair on men that they are still second class citiziens like women who trim their hair, etc and can come to church and worship but are not used on the platform, teaching, etc. I am not saying all but I am guessing some.

That would be the case here, but I'm not complaining.

Bro. Dave

[Felicity]

We never made it an issue in any of the churches we pastored. It wouldn't have been smart to have done so either. There are lots of important boundaries to set and places to draw the line. "Facial hair" certainly isn't one of them in my opinion.

This is where we get into putting yokes on people that are unnecessary. There's no scriptural backup for such a prohibition whatsoever. None!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I haven't read this entire thread so this may already have been touched on...

But... if this is true... then over time opinion will finally begin to change towads beards and then it will be said...

"Well... we never said it was a sin."

Here is the logic I heard preached growing up in the UPC;

1. Hippies and non conformists wear mustaches and beards. They are rebellious people.

2. Pentecostal men with facial hair are identifying themselves with the rebellious

3. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft

4. Hence Pentecostal men with facial hair are as bad as witches!!

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by CC1

Here is the logic I heard preached growing up in the UPC;

1. Hippies and non conformists wear mustaches and beards. They are rebellious people.

2. Pentecostal men with facial hair are identifying themselves with the rebellious

3. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft

4. Hence Pentecostal men with facial hair are as bad as witches!!

LOL... yep... here too.

[dllong]

Originally Posted by CC1

Here is the logic I heard preached growing up in the UPC;

1. Hippies and non conformists wear mustaches and beards. They are rebellious people.

2. Pentecostal men with facial hair are identifying themselves with the rebellious

3. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft

4. Hence Pentecostal men with facial hair are as bad as witches!!

There is just so much wrong with that logic, I don't even know where to begin, so I won't.

;-)

Bro. Dave

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by CC1

Here is the logic I heard preached growing up in the UPC;

1. Hippies and non conformists wear mustaches and beards. They are rebellious people.

2. Pentecostal men with facial hair are identifying themselves with the rebellious

3. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft

4. Hence Pentecostal men with facial hair are as bad as witches!!

Amazing.. their line of reasoning.. lol...

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I was asked once "Can a man go to Heaven with a beard?" I answered "Not from here."

What does this mean??

[dllong]

Originally Posted by Subdued

What does this mean??

I think he meant "not from here" (or) "not from this church you won't"