Romney Will Defeat Obama in a Landslide

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Don't want to sound pushy here but we are to pray FOR those in secular authority and respect their positions and rule.

Even Michael the ark angel respected Satan's POSITION.

What?!

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

I don't agree with this at all. Obama is POTUS b/c America made a stupid choice. I don't believe for one second God was involved in making Obama POTUS or giving him any authority. Rom. 13, I believe is speakign more to the factthat authority in general as an idea and necessity is ordained by God. Not that God places individual men in authority and controls every choice of men.

Even in the case of evil kings like Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzar, God "raised them up" only because Israel/Judah had chosen to reject God repeatedly and they were used as His judgment upon them. I don't believe for a second that God set them up to be kings long before. I believe when judgment time came for Israel, God used the tools already at His disposal. Had Cyrus and Neb not been the kings at that time, God would have used another king and nation to act as His judgment.

But God raised them up, by your own admission. So we agree.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

I didn't even feel like getting up this morning!
What a disaster! The system is sure messed up.

Here's my prediction for the next 4 years:

1. Price of gasoline will double.
2. More imports from China.
3. More unemployment.
4. More inflation.
5. No decent health care (I don't care what they promise!)
6. More homosexual propaganda in the public school system.
7. Continued baby killing paid for by the tax payers.
8. Israel, because of no support from the Obama crew, will, on it's own,
attack Iranian nuclear facilities.
9. Oil shortage and none from Canada. He put a stop to the pipeline.
10.. I would not be surprised if the rapture took place.
11. More natural disasters because of the homosexual and abortion issues.
12. All out war around Israel, Armaggedon or call it WW III.
13. Terrorist attacks on US and Canadian soil.
14. Great falling away in the churches.

God have mercy on North America.

The price of gas will not double, what most folks don't know is there is a major oil boom just beginning in the US!! US oil production has increased significantly over the past two years. Not because of Obama's policies, rather because private exploration: new technology is making sand and shale oil production boom!! Obama will take credit, but in doing so he will cause problems for the climate change freaks. Have you noticed how cheap natural gas is? They are just beginning to use the same technology for oil production and are preparing the infrastructure for exporting natural gas, it is happening quietly but the big players are lining up to get even richer. I bet Mitt is very invested in it!! Blue collar job will be abundant in the oil patches all over the country, and we will out produce the Saudis. We will not need Canada oil very soon.

[Dordrecht]

In Northern Canada oil businesses are booming.
Canadian workers refuse to work for 22.00/hour.
The companies are flying chinese workers in to do the work.
So, there you go. the work is here but we are spoiled rotten
to do the job.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What?!

Jude. 1: 8-11
8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Jude. 1: 8-11
8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

Nothing there about respect.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Nothing there about respect.

dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

The whole original post is telling us to respect authority and not to speak evil against dignitaries. The example in Jude shows this even in the area of angelic beings.

How can you deny that?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rudy

dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”

The whole original post is telling us to respect authority and not to speak evil against dignitaries. The example in Jude shows this even in the area of angelic beings.

How can you deny that?

That, again, does not tell me one thing about Michael giving the Devil respect.

This tells me it's pointless ti argue with the Devil

Jud 1:9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you."

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

That, again, does not tell me one thing about Michael giving the Devil respect.

This tells me it's pointless ti argue with the Devil

Jud 1:9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you."

LOL ok, it's the position.


Thanks for the replies.