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Originally Posted by Maximilian
Well, I'm sure your words are costly and extravagant, but I'll attempt to reply to your question:
I don't think ANYONE has a solution per se (meaning, this will "fix everything"), including either you nor I. I know what's NOT the solution, and what's NOT the solution is to spit on the Constitution, spit on fellow citizens who espouse a religion that has fringe radicals, very much like fringe-like and radical-like Christian groups and militias. We need to back away from xenophobia and islamaphobia and think about this in an objective way, rather than an emotional, blathering red neck way.
I do know there's more to the solution than silly assumptions that all Muslims are terrorists. I know there's more questions on the interrogation sheet. In the background checks. In the checkbox for "red flags."
It's factually true that "they" aren't all (or even mostly) radical Muslim fundamentalists.
There's more than "two groups." But the differentiation isn't difficult. Do they have terrorism relationships/connections? Are they holding training camps? Are they smuggling weapons? Are they spewing out statements about destroying the American people? Just a few ways to "differentiate."
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So... I say some words are "cheap" and you immediately, as usual, rise up in arms with your "charitable responses!" My word was "costly and extravagant???" Oh yea! Maximilian, I don't know you and have no bone to pick with you...but your arrogance is overwhelming. Let me make a point or two before I sign off.
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Who in the thread has "spit" on the Constitution? Cute words with no meaning, as far as I am concerned....unless you're talking about Obama and some of his cohorts.
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Spit on fellow citizens? And who did that? You?
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Fringe radicals? You've got to be kidding! No one, that I can ever recall, has had more fringe radicals than Obama!
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Blathering red neck way Awe... there's some good words from the master orator! I guess these are "costly and extravagant!"
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All Muslims are terrorists ........ Who said that "ALL" (or even mostly) are radical Muslim fundamentalists.? Show me the post!
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Do they have terrorism relationships/connections? Are they holding training camps? Are they smuggling weapons? Are they spewing out statements about destroying the American people? So! we know all those Muslims in our country who are guilty of the above? Or are we victims of their secret lives and what they are doing behind our backs? But, don't question any of the many activities that are going on! To do so make us.... let's see???
xenophobia and islamaphobia!
A list of a few of the Muslim atrocities of the past few years...
4/14/1972 USA New York, NY — Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1/19/1973 USA Brooklyn, NY — Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
7/18/1973 USA Washington, DC — Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
11/25/1973 USA Oakland, CA — A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/13/1973 USA Oakland, CA — A woman is shot to deah on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/1973 USA Oakland, CA — Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/1973 USA Oakland, CA — Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/1973 USA Oakland, CA — A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/1974 USA Oakland, CA — Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/16/1974 USA Ingleside, CA — A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/1977 USA Washington, DC — Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/1980 USA Bethesda, MD — A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/1980 USA Savou, IL — An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
11/6/1989 USA St. Louis, MO — A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing 'dishonor' to their family by dating an 'infidel' African-American.
1/31/1990 USA Tuscon, AZ — A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
1/25/1993 USA Langley, VA — A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/1993 USA New York, NY — Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/1994 USA Brooklyn, NY — A Muslim fires on a vanload of Jewish boys, killing one.
3/23/1997 USA New York, NY — A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/1997 USA Lompoc, CA — A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
10/31/1999 USA Near Nantucket — An Egyptian airline pilot runs a planeload of 217 passengers into the water after uttering a Qur'anic prayer.
3/17/2000 USA Atlanta, GA — A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
9/11/2001 USA Shanksville, PA — Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
9/11/2001 USA New York, NY — Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
9/11/2001 USA Washington, DC — Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ — A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX — Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA — Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD — A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL — Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA — A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD — Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD — Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA — A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA — Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA — A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD — A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX — After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL — A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition.
4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC — A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY — In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD — A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO — Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA — An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
10/6/2006 USA Louisville, KY — In an 'honor' attack, a Muslim man rapes and beats his estranged wife, leaving her for dead, then savagely murders their four children.
2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT — A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine's Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX — A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA — A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY — The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR — A Muslim with 'religious motives' shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ — A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX — A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY — A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL — After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.