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View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues. 11 19.30%
I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation. 10 17.54%
I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization. 3 5.26%
I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational. 21 36.84%
I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational. 11 19.30%
I don't know. 1 1.75%
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:02 PM
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The Bible says you'll be known by their fruit. Some think that scripture says fruitcake. If you want your dress code to be your drawing card than expect the fruitcake label.


This post eradicates posts 165.

No wonder you're not taken seriously.

Go take your meds and chill out.
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I am thrilled about your testimony on how God is moving in your church.

I think the emboldened part is too broad brushed to suit me. Even though I don't agree with some things and I don't consider standards salvational, I'm not a Blue Denim Whale and I don't feel pitiful.
Unfortunately, such comments mariginalize these folks in my mind as much as mirrored comments from the other side.
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Unfortunately, such comments mariginalize these folks in my mind as much as mirrored comments from the other side.
This is very true!
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After reading your comments I thought about the Stone Cold salute. Then again I'm not the one agreeing with people who say standards are salvational. Can you explain why we should agree with the standards are heaven and hell issues when they can't even come up with an uniformed code?
You can keep ducking the issue, but there are fatal flaws to your logic.

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After reading your comments I thought about the Stone Cold salute. Then again I'm not the one agreeing with people who say standards are salvational. Can you explain why we should agree with the standards are heaven and hell issues when they can't even come up with an uniformed code?
You can keep ducking the issue, but there are fatal flaws to your logic.

this is a christian forum!! Take you trash somewhere else. I have reported this post
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After reading your comments I thought about the Stone Cold salute. Then again I'm not the one agreeing with people who say standards are salvational. Can you explain why we should agree with the standards are heaven and hell issues when they can't even come up with an uniformed code?
You can keep ducking the issue, but there are fatal flaws to your logic.
Stone Cold salute???

Where have I " agreeing with people who say standards are salvational".
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Unfortunately in our area man made tradition is the tool the devil uses the most. In our area we fight man made tradition and self righteousnes arrogance. We fight fire with fire and God is winning.

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Unfortunately in our area man made tradition is the tool the devil uses the most. In our area we fight man made tradition and self righteousnes arrogance. We fight fire with fire and God is winning.
It really seems to me that the arrogance exists on both polar ends of the spectrum. Just my observations.
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Well OGIA,

If I saw you had a wreck, I would stop and pray for you. I won't expect you to think I can reach God for you, but I can and I would in a heart beat.

God bless everyone, I'm going to say my prayers and go to bed!
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