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Old 11-19-2008, 10:43 PM
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I have found you pick and chose what you follow. As stated before on these forums we use many pagan traditions including the days and months of the year.
Days and months are not baptized into Christiandom. They are part of the secular world. Now xmas has been adopted and baptized into Christiandom.

We are not talking food or forks, and electric toasters, no one says that they are used to celebrate Christ. Woden's day is not said to celebrate Christ.
Yet, Dec 25th the day of Mithra has been converted to celebrate Christ.

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Old 11-19-2008, 10:49 PM
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I might write a song called "Backslid and Loving It!" if I believed I were really backslid! I am sure glad I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore! BUt, it was a long road to really understanding I could have a tree and be okay.
This is not about forcing anyone to do anything, it's about just admitting it's not of Christian origin.

You do as you very well please.

We are saying that xmas was a made up holiday that had nothing to do with Christ, until the Catholics came along and stole it from the Cebels, Druids, Celts, and Germani.

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Old 11-19-2008, 10:51 PM
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And here is the key to all of this, what are you worshipping? I doubt any of us are worshipping our trees. Good grief!
We worship Christ all year long, why would we need some festival, of lights, and partying?
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:55 PM
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I still want to hear what people say with regard to Jeremiah 10. It's obviously prophetic. I have no problem with people sharing the birth of Jesus with their family and friends. But decorated trees, santa clause, ornaments, easter bunnies.....golden calf.......lets keep it about Jesus........nothing but Jesus.
How can you keep it ABOUT Jesus, when it NEVER had anything to do with Jesus?

That's like having a golden calf and saying that you only want to put it up once a year to celebrate Jesus' birth. Yet you say you don't worship the calf.
See any difference? Pine tree with jewelry on it, and golden calf in the middle of the living room.

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Old 11-19-2008, 10:59 PM
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I don't think Jeremiah 10 is referring to a Christmas tree. I do not worship the tree. It is a decoration.
What about an eight armed Shiva, in the living room, draped with tinsel, and lights that blink? What's wrong with putting that up and saying it's only a decoration? Only a decoration? A tree dripping sap, and dropping pine needles only a decoration? Where's the connection between Christ and the tree?

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Old 11-19-2008, 11:00 PM
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I used to celebrate christmas and I don't believe that I was lost back then. I loved God then as I do now.

As for myself... this is not something I do feeling it is necessary for my salvation. This has become my conviction and belief that I love and hold dear and I practice it for that very reason.
Again, good words.
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I used to celebrate christmas and I don't believe that I was lost back then. I loved God then as I do now.

As for myself... this is not something I do feeling it is necessary for my salvation. This has become my conviction and belief that I love and hold dear and I practice it for that very reason.
This I can understand and appreciate.

It's the "you're going to hell if you do that/I feel so sorry for your little lost soul" faction that I take issue with.
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What about an eight armed Shiva, in the living room, draped with tinsel, and lights that blink? What's wrong with putting that up and saying it's only a decoration? Only a decoration? A tree dripping sap, and dropping pine needles only a decoration? Where's the connection between Christ and the tree?

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I'm confused. Do you think it's wrong to put any decorations in your house? Or only those items which may or may not have been used in pagan rituals or worship in times past or present?

What about sprinklings of colorful leaves on the Thanksgiving table?

Red glitter on the table on Valentine's day? Red hearts? Valentine's cards with cupid on the front?

Do you celebrate birthdays?
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so called christians that want to replace christ with an "x" and condemn the christians that celebrate christ birth are spiritual scrooge's.

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I'm confused. Do you think it's wrong to put any decorations in your house? Or only those items which may or may not have been used in pagan rituals or worship in times past or present?

What about sprinklings of colorful leaves on the Thanksgiving table?

Red glitter on the table on Valentine's day? Red hearts? Valentine's cards with cupid on the front?

Do you celebrate birthdays?
None of the above. St Valentine? Anyone still pray the rosary?
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