President Barack Obama!

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by CC1

Your post here illustrates exactly my disappontment that so many OP's are caught in the global conspiracy theories and other Black Helicopter garbage.

Just so I understand you here...You consider to be "garbage" the idea that there are some in this world who have a desire and plan to guide our world toward world government?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Just so I understand you here...You consider to be "garbage" the idea that there are some in this world who have a desire and plan to guide our world toward world government?

The idea that politicans meet in dimly lit rooms conspiring to bring a one world government to reality.

I am almost 49 years old and have heard that jumk all of my life. Those conspiracy theories were particularly popular in the late 1960's and 1970's.

Now go ahead and give me a history lesson on trilateralism. Tell me how that Democrats and Republicans are all the same and meet behind closed doors to pick who is going to win each election with a wink, wink, nod, nod.

Oh, and don't forget how there is a giant computer in Brussells that is the "Beast: in revelation. Oh, wait. That one has kind of died out since the 80's.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by CC1

Now go ahead and give me a history lesson on trilateralism. Tell me how that Democrats and Republicans are all the same and meet behind closed doors to pick who is going to win each election with a wink, wink, nod, nod.

Oh, and don't forget how there is a giant computer in Brussells that is the "Beast: in revelation. Oh, wait. That one has kind of died out since the 80's.

Well, I was just curious as to your point of view on it.

But please...I could do without the the sarcasm. It was just a simple question.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by CC1

Oh, and don't forget how there is a giant computer in Brussells that is the "Beast: in revelation. Oh, wait. That one has kind of died out since the 80's.

I remember hearing about that giant computer during the 80's from a certain end-times evangelist. Funny thing is that my current 4 PC's has more power then that thing ever had.

"This is the voice of colossus...."

[CC1]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Well, I was just curious as to your point of view on it.

But please...I could do without the the sarcasm. It was just a simple question.

I typed it with a smile on my face. Doesn't that count for something? It really reads more sarcastic than it was meant to be. I just have very little patience for conspiracy buffs.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I remember hearing about that giant computer during the 80's from a certain end-times evangelist. Funny thing is that my current 4 PC's has more power then that thing ever had.

"This is the voice of colossus...."

I remember finding out a few years ago that the computer in our cars that controls the engine is more powerful than the computer that landed the Lunar Landing Module!

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

*disclaimer* (I am an evil evil man) Having said that, I have no problem with torture...I know huh, my wife says I'm weird! But if torture would have stopped 9-11, I say, grab the hose...
*Other than that, I'm a reaaaalllly nice guy*

We will never know if torture would have prevented 9/11. However, we do know that numbers of individuals are tortured for information they don't know. That means men are tortured for virtually no reason. We know that when men are tortured they do not always provide reliable information because they often say anything to end the torture. Sometimes they are coerced into confessing that things are happening that aren't truly happening. It's a crime against humanity. We stand against foreign countries torturing Americans...therefore we have a moral responsibility to live up to being a more civilized and just civilization.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by CC1

Your rhetoric is not only "ove the top" it is just plain wrong. You show a total lack of understanding of what facism is.

Your post here illustrates exactly my disappontment that so many OP's are caught in the global conspiracy theories and other Black Helicopter garbage.

The Republicans that have governened may not have been exactly what you would like but they have represented less government and less government intervention in peoples lives than the Democrats ever dreamed of.

Republican policies leave the door open for the American dream. It is still small businesses that power America's economy. Democrats would tax small business owners out of existence if they had their choice.

Wrong. Small businesses and the middle class do better under Democrats. Primarily massive corporate powers do best under Republicans. Democrats would break up corporate powers and restore the innovative competition between smaller businesses and family enterprises such as what you see in Europe.

CC1, solid conservative publicans have associated the current Neo-Con leadership of the Republican party leaning towards fascism.

And in regards to conspiracy theories...I know this much...

There is a devil.

There is a spirit of antichrist working to unite the world against Christ and the Gospel.

I know that evil men have succumbed to this spirit.

I know that private powers are using their money to pull the strings from behind the scenes.

A global government will not just happen...there are individuals and groups working to make it happen. We're not talking about secret groups of behind the scene power brokers anymore. We're talking about men advocating the New World Order in the open. Look it up. Here's Kissinger commenting on it himself....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bKwH...eature=related

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Check me Daniel, I was speaking of the American Conservitives. NOT the republican party! in fact I stated that there ARE Fascists in the Republican party.

McCarthyism is a debate in and of itself. I am not willing to connect it to Fascism. Bad mojo for sure but Fascism? Not willing to say that.

and that bit about Fascism and communism not being uniquely American? well we agree 100%

just dont tag the American Conservitive movement with the fascist lable. we aint it.

American conservatives aint it. But via the Republican Party they are married to it. Only conservatives that vote Constitutionalist can argue that they have completely broken ranks from the neo-con fascists of the Republican party.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by CC1

I typed it with a smile on my face. Doesn't that count for something? It really reads more sarcastic than it was meant to be. I just have very little patience for conspiracy buffs.

ok. understood.
not a problem.