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Old 04-17-2015, 09:53 AM
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for anyone willing to invest in the world of politics, this may be so. He is obviously not the popular choice--we have google metrics that show this pretty conclusively--but since that choice is to be kept from you at all costs, i will say that the nation will get exactly what it deserves; so you may be right.
You've already stated that you "don't know him". You keep throwing out arbitrary speech. That, pretty much, makes anything you say from here on out moot points. Give me substance. I have certainly given you plenty.
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Old 04-17-2015, 09:54 AM
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hey, i wish him the best. I hope that he might stick to his principles, while being aware that it is suicide for him to do so. He will either be absorbed, or have an accident. His choices are money, or a bullet. It is just that simple. Plenty of precedent.
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Old 04-17-2015, 09:56 AM
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hey, i wish him the best. I hope that he might stick to his principles, while being aware that it is suicide for him to do so. He will either be absorbed, or have an accident. His choices are money, or a bullet. It is just that simple. Plenty of precedent.
He has stuck to his principles thus far. You have to have money to run a national campaign. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

Anywaysss, gotta run....
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Old 04-17-2015, 10:00 AM
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You've already stated that you "don't know him". You keep throwing out arbitrary speech. That, pretty much, makes anything you say from here on out moot points. Give me substance. I have certainly given you plenty.
well you say "arbitrary," where i can prove otherwise. You want substance, read 1Sam8 or something. There can be no "substance," once one has begun from an improper premise. Everything that proceeds from it will be yack; and licked up by the naive.

i won't try to argue that he did not begin from proper premises; but that he will be absorbed, or rejected, and that he has no other choices. Watch "confessions of an economic hitman," and then try to justify how he might buck the system from within. I would be interested to hear how you think that might be possible.
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Old 04-17-2015, 10:01 AM
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He has stuck to his principles thus far. You have to have money to run a national campaign. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.
ya, that's what they told Gandhi, too. not buying it now, either.
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Old 04-17-2015, 10:33 AM
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no, he is much worse. he is a hypocrite. I can prove it. He has sworn to uphold the Constitution one one hand, and daily smears it with the other. He would not have been accepted into "the party" otherwise.
Oh you can prove it? I thought you wrote that you don't know him?

Prove how he "daily smears it [the Constitution]." Prove Cruz is a hypocrite.

Pretty audacious claim for someone who admits not even knowing the guy.
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Old 04-17-2015, 11:30 AM
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i know him by his fruit. Has he introduced a bill to repeal the unconstitutional concessions granted to legislators in DC, riding on the groundswell--tsunami--of support that would surely accompany such a measure? Did he immediately, upon election to Senator, state his intention to forego any of these concessions? So let's get real.
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Oh you can prove it? I thought you wrote that you don't know him?

Prove how he "daily smears it [the Constitution]." Prove Cruz is a hypocrite.

Pretty audacious claim for someone who admits not even knowing the guy.
lol--i'll let him prove it for me. This is the whole MO of the political system; those Bohemian Grove types whose system you worship, wadr. Take a moral person who garners popularity, invite them into the machine, to 'change from within,' of course; and then demoralize him one proven way or another. Forget my proof--you have no proof that it happens any other way!

But by all means, vote harder, if you think that will save you.

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Old 04-17-2015, 11:47 AM
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i know him by his fruit. Has he introduced a bill to repeal the unconstitutional concessions granted to legislators in DC, riding on the groundswell--tsunami--of support that would surely accompany such a measure? Did he immediately, upon election to Senator, state his intention to forego any of these concessions? So let's get real.lol--i'll let him prove it for me. This is the whole MO of the political system; those Bohemian Grove types whose system you worship, wadr. Take a moral person who garners popularity, invite them into the machine, to 'change from within,' of course; and then demoralize him one proven way or another. Forget my proof--you have no proof that it happens any other way!

But by all means, vote harder, if you think that will save you.
So basically you're just throwing a tantrum because Cruz hasn't introduced a bill you want taking free haircuts, gym memberships and cars away from members of Congress. Your claim that Cruz daily smears the Constitution is completely absurd and laughable.



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Old 04-17-2015, 11:59 AM
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and yet he could walk away tomorrow with all of "his" unconstitutional benefits. Ok. Go with that. And of course you overstate me, having a "tantrum" for laying out the obvious fruit. I'm guessing you'll be calling me an idiot or something, any minute now. Truly, i wish you guys all the best with Mr Cruz.
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:24 PM
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and yet he could walk away tomorrow with all of "his" unconstitutional benefits. Ok. Go with that. And of course you overstate me, having a "tantrum" for laying out the obvious fruit. I'm guessing you'll be calling me an idiot or something, any minute now. Truly, i wish you guys all the best with Mr Cruz.
You didn't lay out anything. And no, I won't call you an idiot. I just think it's hilarious you believe Cruz daily smears the Constitution because he might be using a Congressional perk, such as a free haircut, gym membership or use of a car.

It's petty, really.
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