**preacher forums** - Page 17

berkeley · #**161** 03-16-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by berkeley

...I do not remember the starting post of this thread, and I know what I had in mind when I started it, and this is not the direction that I had in scope (+)

FWIW (not a whole lot, now)

Praxeas · #**162** 03-16-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I was thinking of Kirk Franklin and his struggle with pornography. It was very beautiful that he totally trusted his wife enough to confess to her so that she could stand beside him and help him. He is still standing, right? I'm always afraid to ask! LOL!

It was even more beautify that she stuck with him

Pressing-On · #**163** 03-16-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

It was even more beautify that she stuck with him

Yes, Prax, I agree. Her sticking with him pretty much trumps his trusting her to help him.

bishoph · #**164** 03-16-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

But is it "ok" to name some UPC pastor, not even a forum member, and speculate and accuse him of being of being weak on standards while NOT doing the same regarding a UPC pastor that committed adultery on their sin of adultery? Is non-comformity to standards somehow worse than adultery?

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Originally Posted by bishoph

IMO (and what I have tried to practice in forum land) forums are a place to discuss issues not persons regardless of organizational affiliation or lack thereof. To do otherwise places us in a seat of judgement that I sincerely doubt any of us are qualified to sit in.

Having said that, some who view standards as biblical mandates may see "non-conformity" to standards or other doctrinal error as more dangerous than adultery. Now before someone tries to say "there you have it, Bishoph just said that standards were more important than moral purity," that is not what I said. I specifically used the word "dangerous."

Let me explain my statement. The adulterer/fornicator etc can/will IMO must be removed from ministry. Thus the damage done by their sin will hopefully be limited in its scope. But a person who is in doctrinal error, may continue to infect untold numbers of people which could have eternal consequences.

Again, I am not justifying the assassination of anyone's name on a forum (especially those that are not there to defend themselves) and I believe that forums should be for the sake of discussing issues not persons.

Bump for Praxeas.....I think this got buried in the discussion.

Charnock · #**165** 03-16-2011, 10:36 PM

For the record, I don't regret anything I've posted on this thread. I meant every word I posted.

Jason B · #**166** 03-16-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

I don't know what it is like in the States but in Canada most preachers would rather sit in the congregation than go on the platform.

This hasn't been my experience too often. If ministry sits in the congregation, it is normally on the first pew. Personally, if I'm not preaching I enjoy my seat, about midway back, in the midst of the congregation.

MissBrattified · #**167** 03-16-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

This hasn't been my experience too often. If ministry sits in the congregation, it is normally on the first pew. Personally, if I'm not preaching I enjoy my seat, about midway back, in the midst of the congregation.

To be fair, it's practical. Those who are going to be speaking will be close to the podium. It's not necessarily a means of "exalting oneself."

Jason B · #**168** 03-16-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended

Ungodliness is ungodliness regardless of where it is found. Nevertheless, there is one difference: "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm."

I often see this scripture along with "obey them which have rule over you" I am still trying to figure out why "test the spirits" "prove all things" and "these were more noble...in that they searched the scriptures daily to see whether those things were so." are not quoted with the same frequency?

Jason B · #**169** 03-16-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

To be fair, it's practical. Those who are going to be speaking will be close to the podium. It's not necessarily a means of "exalting oneself."

True, but I've never been a fan of the "Johnny Carson chairs" on the platform. And what Jeff Arnold called "wall papaer for Christ". Just a little too much Matthew 23:6 for my tastes.

Stephanas · #**170** 03-17-2011, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

No, not since they became havens for adulterers, perverts and pretend preachers.

Preachers forums thrive on ferreting out "rats" and holiness nonconformists but they will cover their buddies sins better than a dog buries his favorite bone.

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Originally Posted by Charnock

For the record, I don't regret anything I've posted on this thread. I meant every word I posted.

Unfortunately, this says far more about Charnock than it says about "preacher forums."

It is sad that Bro. Charnock has chosen to smear the reputations of good, sincere men with such filthy, false words.

I have followed forums from FCF to AFF and I can't recall a more reprehensible post than Charnock's blanket condemnation of preachers.

Shame on you Bro. Charnock. Shame on you.

I hope that, in the clear light of day, you will see how you have disgraced yourself and dishonored your brethren, and that you will retract what you have written.