Apology to World

[Newman]

Wii- I believe you are racist because you appear to separate people into colors instead of seeing just people. Furthermore, you seem to see hatred based on race where race wasn't even part of the discussion.

So, I ask again. Were you brought up in a color focused family OR were you eyes "opened" to racism when you became a Muslim?

[Newman]

Wii-

Curiousity...

1. What makes you "obviously" American?

2. What makes you American other than birth? What do you have in common with Americans in general?

[Walks_in_islam]

What a difficult question. hm. What is a "color focused" family? How does one "appear to separate people into colors?"

If "appearing to separate people into colors" is noting (and making fun of) that audiences from the right are relatively "color-free" I guess you are correct in drawing that conclusion. What then constitutes "separating"? Is it the lack of color in the actual audience or is it the observation of the audience itself? From my standpoint, the separation occurs in the drawing together of the audience. From your standpoint, the separation occurs in making the observation. Our viewpoints differ in this.

Does noting the phenomenom make one a racist or does the phenomenom itself denote the appearance of racism?

You, of course are free to believe what you wish. My life is not "color free" by any means lol. How bout you?

Originally Posted by Newman

Wii- I believe you are racist because you appear to separate people into colors instead of seeing just people. Furthermore, you seem to see hatred based on race where race wasn't even part of the discussion.

So, I ask again. Were you brought up in a color focused family OR were you eyes "opened" to racism when you became a Muslim?

[Walks_in_islam]

(laughing) I realize that it is difficult for you to think of a Muslim as a real person, but (do not be stunned) I have a home, and parents, and brothers, and sisters, and friends, and a life in the US

Originally Posted by Newman

Wii-

Curiousity...

1. What makes you "obviously" American?

2. What makes you American other than birth? What do you have in common with Americans in general?

[Walks_in_islam]

This is the first I have seen or heard of it, I will give it a look.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Just got a notice at Twitter and wondered what you thought about it?

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

What a difficult question. hm. What is a "color focused" family? How does one "appear to separate people into colors?"

If "appearing to separate people into colors" is noting (and making fun of) that audiences from the right are relatively "color-free" I guess you are correct in drawing that conclusion. What then constitutes "separating"? Is it the lack of color in the actual audience or is it the observation of the audience itself? From my standpoint, the separation occurs in the drawing together of the audience. From your standpoint, the separation occurs in making the observation. Our viewpoints differ in this.

Does noting the phenomenom make one a racist or does the phenomenom itself denote the appearance of racism?

You, of course are free to believe what you wish. My life is not "color free" by any means lol. How bout you?

Wii- What is a color focused family? A racist family...

Why do I ask? Because you have brought up skin color in several posts with intent to smear. The question remains. Were you taught to look at the world this way in your family or at the Mosque?

Looking at the audience who shows up to hear a white southen preacher speak a few words and play a musical instrument does not gage racism UNLESS the words spoken give rise to such an argument or the opportunity to participate is restricted to said audience.

And by the way I am not to certain that any of the people listed below would drive out of their way to hear Huckabee but they are Republican. What might they have in common?

* Ken Blackwell, former Secretary of State of Ohio, former Ohio gubernatorial candidate
* Keith Butler, minister, former Detroit councilman, former candidate for U.S. Senate from Michigan
* Alveda King, niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, senior fellow at the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
* Rod Paige, former Secretary of Education
* Michael Powell, former FCC chairman
* Condoleezza Rice, United States Secretary of State, former National Security Advisor
* Winsome Sears, former member of Virginia House of Delegates, former candidate for U.S. House
* Michael S. Steele, former Lieutenant Governor of Maryland, Republican Chairman
* Thomas Stith, town councilman of Durham, NC, former candidate for Lt. Gov. of NC
* J.C. Watts, former U.S. Representative from Oklahoma

* Wallace Jefferson, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court
* Janice Rogers Brown, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
* Clarence Thomas, associate justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, former Equal Employment Opportunity Commission chairman

* Larry Elder, author of 10 Things You Can't Say in America, radio show host
* Alan Keyes, radio host, U.N. Ambassador, presidential candidate, author
* Angela McGlowan, Republican political analyst for Fox News Network who has been nicknamed the "Black Ann Coulter"
* Jesse Lee Peterson, president of The Brotherhood Organization, television and radio host
* Armstrong Williams, author of Beyond Blame, TV host of On Point

* Erik Rush, columnist, author
* La Shawn Barber, columnist, blogger
* Loo Oates, social commentator, columnist, blogger
* Stephen L. Carter, Christianity Today columnist, author of The Culture of Disbelief
* Ken Hamblin, Denver Post columnist
* Deroy Murdock, National Review columnist
* Star Parker, president of the Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education, columnist, author
* Thomas Sowell, Hoover Institute fellow, economist, author of Basic Economics
* Walter E. Williams, economist, columnist, author of More Liberty Means Less Government
* Sophia A. Nelson, columnist, blogger, commentator, GOP political strategist, Chairman of PoliticalIntersection.com and politicalintersection.blogspot .com

* Lionel Hampton, musician and bandleader
* Yaphet Kotto, actor
* Karl Malone, basketball player, two-time Olympic gold medalist
* Joseph C. Phillips, actor, commentator
* Lynn Swann, football player, Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate
* Jimmie Walker, actor, comedian

* Akindele Akinyemi,CEO of One Network and conservative educator
* Calvin Butts, anti-gangsta rap activist
* Herman Cain, President of Godfather's Pizza
* Ward Connerly, University of California regent, activist and businessman
* Ezola Foster, president of Americans for Family Values, author of What's Right For All Americans
* Samuel B. Fuller, 20th century entrepreneur
* Robert A. George, journalist, pundit and blogger.
* Niger Innis, director of Congress of Racial Equality (CORE)
* Roy Innis, Hudson Institute fellow, chairman of the Congress of Racial Equality
* T.D Jakes, televangelist
* Don King, boxing promoter
* Michael King, National Advisory Board Member of Project 21, former radio talk show host
* John McWhorter, author of Losing the Race and Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute
* James Meredith, former civil rights activist
* Eric Motley, former State Department official, now vice-president of the Aspen Institute
* Deroy Murdock, Wall Street Journal opinion contributor, Cato Institute Scholar
* Gerald A. Reynolds, president of the Center for New Black Leadership, member of Project 21
* Vernon Robinson, Air Force intelligence officer, business professor
* George Schuyler, journalist, novelist
* Shelby Steele, Hoover Institute fellow, author of The Content of Our Character
* Stanley Crouch, author of In Defence of Taboos
* Lee Walker, president of the New Coalition for Economic and Social Change, Heartland Institute Fellow

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

(laughing) I realize that it is difficult for you to think of a Muslim as a real person, but (do not be stunned) I have a home, and parents, and brothers, and sisters, and friends, and a life in the US

WOAH!!! You forget that I actually have had Muslims in my home for dinner and greatly respect most American Muslims (that are glad to be here). You forget that one of my son's best friends in high school was a Muslim.

I have no trouble at all calling them American.

1. So I ask you again, why is it obvious to those in Saudi Arabia that you are an American?

2. Outside of being born into an American family what do you feel you have in common with America?

[Walks_in_islam]

I provided an all-inclusive list....

Originally Posted by Newman

WOAH!!! You forget that I actually have had Muslims in my home for dinner and greatly respect most American Muslims (that are glad to be here). You forget that one of my son's best friends in high school was a Muslim.

I have no trouble at all calling them American.

1. So I ask you again, why is it obvious to those in Saudi Arabia that you are an American?

2. Outside of being born into an American family what do you feel you have in common with America?

[Walks_in_islam]

I am sure you can believe or make up whatever you wish on someone else's "intent". Do you feel smeared? It's only the internet which makes it business and not personal. You should see some of the stuff that gets said about muslims lol....but you probably have

OK - explanations -

The crack at soun was because soun is an ACE rep. Whatever that is. Through the south for two decades ACE church school sprung up all over from nowhere to dodge, can you guess? busing and desegregation. SO - I was taking a cheap shot.

The crack at prax was because he told me, in another thread, to go visit a pennycostal church (a prayer meeting). It was not long before he posted a goat with its tail up and suggested the Muslims have relations with their goats. "In the name of Jesus" Anyway, many (if not most) pennycostal churches (once were) segregated. Even in the same cities. The pentecostal website still lists different "ministries". One of their "ministries" is "black evangelism" like "black evangelism" is different from any other evangelism. SO - I was taking a cheap shot.

The "religious right" HATES obama and picks through every word he says while trying to spin something negative from it. Obama is non-white. All-white pennycostals and ACE school reps who also are part of the "religious right" make an easy target in that context. SO - I was taking a cheap shot.

SO once again - does making fun of the desegregation-dodging or the desegregation-dodging itself constitute racism? Does listing "black evangelism" and "spanish evangelism" imply a "color-focused" church or does the one who makes fun of it HAVE to come from a "color-focused" family?

lol please ponder and get back with me on this....

If color-focus is (so very) sensitive then I am not sure I would recommend putting "color-focused" evangelism on my website. lol

Originally Posted by Newman

Wii- What is a color focused family? A racist family...

Why do I ask? Because you have brought up skin color in several posts with intent to smear. The question remains. Were you taught to look at the world this way in your family or at the Mosque?

Looking at the audience who shows up to hear a white southen preacher speak a few words and play a musical instrument does not gage racism UNLESS the words spoken give rise to such an argument or the opportunity to participate is restricted to said audience.

And by the way I am not to certain that any of the people listed below would drive out of their way to hear Huckabee but they are Republican. What might they have in common?

* Ken Blackwell, former Secretary of State of Ohio, former Ohio gubernatorial candidate
* Keith Butler, minister, former Detroit councilman, former candidate for U.S. Senate from Michigan
* Alveda King, niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, senior fellow at the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
* Rod Paige, former Secretary of Education
* Michael Powell, former FCC chairman
* Condoleezza Rice, United States Secretary of State, former National Security Advisor
* Winsome Sears, former member of Virginia House of Delegates, former candidate for U.S. House
* Michael S. Steele, former Lieutenant Governor of Maryland, Republican Chairman
* Thomas Stith, town councilman of Durham, NC, former candidate for Lt. Gov. of NC
* J.C. Watts, former U.S. Representative from Oklahoma

* Wallace Jefferson, chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court
* Janice Rogers Brown, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
* Clarence Thomas, associate justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, former Equal Employment Opportunity Commission chairman

* Larry Elder, author of 10 Things You Can't Say in America, radio show host
* Alan Keyes, radio host, U.N. Ambassador, presidential candidate, author
* Angela McGlowan, Republican political analyst for Fox News Network who has been nicknamed the "Black Ann Coulter"
* Jesse Lee Peterson, president of The Brotherhood Organization, television and radio host
* Armstrong Williams, author of Beyond Blame, TV host of On Point

* Erik Rush, columnist, author
* La Shawn Barber, columnist, blogger
* Loo Oates, social commentator, columnist, blogger
* Stephen L. Carter, Christianity Today columnist, author of The Culture of Disbelief
* Ken Hamblin, Denver Post columnist
* Deroy Murdock, National Review columnist
* Star Parker, president of the Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education, columnist, author
* Thomas Sowell, Hoover Institute fellow, economist, author of Basic Economics
* Walter E. Williams, economist, columnist, author of More Liberty Means Less Government
* Sophia A. Nelson, columnist, blogger, commentator, GOP political strategist, Chairman of PoliticalIntersection.com and politicalintersection.blogspot .com

* Lionel Hampton, musician and bandleader
* Yaphet Kotto, actor
* Karl Malone, basketball player, two-time Olympic gold medalist
* Joseph C. Phillips, actor, commentator
* Lynn Swann, football player, Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate
* Jimmie Walker, actor, comedian

* Akindele Akinyemi,CEO of One Network and conservative educator
* Calvin Butts, anti-gangsta rap activist
* Herman Cain, President of Godfather's Pizza
* Ward Connerly, University of California regent, activist and businessman
* Ezola Foster, president of Americans for Family Values, author of What's Right For All Americans
* Samuel B. Fuller, 20th century entrepreneur
* Robert A. George, journalist, pundit and blogger.
* Niger Innis, director of Congress of Racial Equality (CORE)
* Roy Innis, Hudson Institute fellow, chairman of the Congress of Racial Equality
* T.D Jakes, televangelist
* Don King, boxing promoter
* Michael King, National Advisory Board Member of Project 21, former radio talk show host
* John McWhorter, author of Losing the Race and Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute
* James Meredith, former civil rights activist
* Eric Motley, former State Department official, now vice-president of the Aspen Institute
* Deroy Murdock, Wall Street Journal opinion contributor, Cato Institute Scholar
* Gerald A. Reynolds, president of the Center for New Black Leadership, member of Project 21
* Vernon Robinson, Air Force intelligence officer, business professor
* George Schuyler, journalist, novelist
* Shelby Steele, Hoover Institute fellow, author of The Content of Our Character
* Stanley Crouch, author of In Defence of Taboos
* Lee Walker, president of the New Coalition for Economic and Social Change, Heartland Institute Fellow

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I provided an all-inclusive list....

Wii- I don't understand your answers to this question....

Why would you need security contractors to escort you around given that you would not strike anyone as remotely Ameican?

You said you were OBVIOUSLY American [to those in Saudi Arabi]. How so? Why would they know that? Family back home is unknown to them. So what IDENTIFIES YOU AS AN AMERICAN in your host country?

Outside of being born in Amercia, what do you have in common with America?