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Old 04-02-2009, 03:52 PM
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo

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That's where I stopped reading.

I repeat the words of the great patriot Benjamin Franklin.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"
We fear what we dont understand-and that what I think I am detecting is fear of the unknown.

To bad Franklin couldn't be around now to see what they are doing with his liberty-
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:53 PM
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Ferd,
Carrying a box of money on an airplane is suspect, IMO. He could be underground for some group. How could the TSA know that if they can't ask him what he is doing. It showed up in his luggage. Why does he need a box to carry it in? Why can't he just tell them what he is doing with the money?
and what I am saying is that carrying cash in any manner, in ones pocket, in a money belt, in a box or strapped to your head is NOT suspect in any way shape or form.

Yes some people with ill intent will carry cash. That is absolutly true, but when we abdicate our right as law abiding citizens, we open the door of abuse to the government.

beyond that TSA's job is to keep airline passengers safe. It is not to keep potential bad guys from flying.
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Have you told them you are an admitted law breaker and have been caught trying to carry a pocket knife into a police station?
lol

I wasn't charged or convicted! LOL

Coadie...you've got to come down to reality kiddo.
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PO, what right did they have to pull him out of the line in the first place? That is the real problem here.
Because of the box of cash, which was suspect.

Anyway, I have to run an errand and need to log out.
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i'm still wondering if it was that important to not answer their "simple" questions because he was afraid of incriminating himself with his answers. How would he have been incriminated? What could have entrapped him?

I know the whole point is that he was stopped for carrying cash and napolitano said that they can't detain him for that, but - i think i would have just answered their questions and see where it went from there.
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IMO, they held him because he was being obstinate and vague.
He wasn't obstinate. He was asking if they had any legal authority to demand this information .

If they had any legal authority the answer would have been a clear and resounding... YES.

But they did not.

Also... this "obstinate" behavior occurred because he was detained. Not the other way around.

If standing up for your rights is the definition of obstinance then color me obstinate.

He was asking one question. Is he legally required to answer that question.

If he is... then he would answer.

if he is not legally required to answer the question then... he does not have to.
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and what I am saying is that carrying cash in any manner, in ones pocket, in a money belt, in a box or strapped to your head is NOT suspect in any way shape or form.

Yes some people with ill intent will carry cash. That is absolutly true, but when we abdicate our right as law abiding citizens, we open the door of abuse to the government.

beyond that TSA's job is to keep airline passengers safe. It is not to keep potential bad guys from flying.
In a box is a totally different story. It's just suspect, Ferd.

Gotta run!
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Your point "it might make one curious"....Well, it certainly made the TSA curious.

I still don't see why he had to act so obstinate about answering the questions. They even said, "If you don't have anything to hide, then why can't you answer the question?"

My only question is this - In answering, what could he have said that would have incriminated him?

Sounds like too much, unnecessary, drama on his part.
Again, drama on his part?

the guy did nothing wrong. he didnt do anything that should have gotten this kind of attention. His actions are not in question.
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Alright... list a few of these directives that we need to review.
Starting on the 13th of April I'll have to know them. I might give some examples after that.
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He wasn't obstinate. He was asking if they had any legal authority to demand this information .

If they had any legal authority the answer would have been a clear and resounding... YES.

But they did not.

Also... this "obstinate" behavior occurred because he was detained. Not the other way around.

If standing up for your rights is the definition of obstinance then color me obstinate.

He was asking one question. Is he legally required to answer that question.

If he is... then he would answer.

if he is not legally required to answer the question then... he does not have to.
I have to run, but I listened to it again and I thought - "Why would you approach the questioning in this manner? You are making yourself look suspect, secretive and guilty?"

JMO!

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