Dear Rhoni - Page 16

Rhoni · #**151** 02-27-2007, 05:18 PM

oops...Rev. Randy...maybe you should close your eyes!

Felicity · #**152** 02-27-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

I can't believe you said that on a public forum

LOL! Why? I didn't say anything bad did I?

revrandy · #**153** 02-27-2007, 05:19 PM

Felicity...You have discovered a Sure Fire way to keep us men off here!!!!

Rhoni · #**154** 02-27-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy

Felicity...You have discovered a Sure Fire way to keep us men off here!!!!

Felicity...Did I say

Blessings, Rhoni

Felicity · #**155** 02-27-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy

Felicity...You have discovered a Sure Fire way to keep us men off here!!!!

Oh come on. We all live in the real world including you -- so there!

Hehe.

Rhoni · #**156** 02-27-2007, 05:21 PM

Guess the place is officially lightened up!

revrandy · #**157** 02-27-2007, 05:26 PM

Rhoni...
I somewhat see your battle from a different view point tho.. I do believe in the need for Christian Counseling....My precious wife suffered from Clinical Depression from an injury she sustained from her job and the pain she was in.. for about 2 years and our family as a whole suffered..until she began a counseling program thru her Job Provider with a Christian Counselor... and with counseling and God we made it thru.. meeting her today you would never know what she or we went thru..

A part of your battle is (if you don't mind) is your personal struggles with church and men and authority comes thru many times in your advice.. at least what I've read...

A part of counsel is the nuetrality one needs when dealing with folks who are hurting.... if you go into the conversation with bias isn't that a disservice to those you are offering advice too??

and I am not being mean nor flippant just asking??

Felicity · #**158** 02-27-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

Guess the place is officially lightened up!

Like a LIGHT BULB!

Felicity · #**159** 02-27-2007, 05:29 PM

I suffered from depression for about ..... lesseee.......*counting* ....... 8 years or so .... something like that. Way too long.

Dear God in heaven ....... thank goodness He knows and understands.

I think I'm okay now. Although some might question.

Rhoni · #**160** 02-27-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy

Rhoni...

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I somewhat see your battle from a different view point tho.. I do believe in the need for Christian Counseling....My precious wife suffered from Clinical Depression from an injury she sustained from her job and the pain she was in.. for about 2 years and our family as a whole suffered..until she began a counseling program thru her Job Provider with a Christian Counselor... and with counseling and God we made it thru.. meeting her today you would never know what she or we went thru..

A part of your battle is (if you don't mind) is your personal struggles with church and men and authority comes thru many times in your advice.. at least what I've read...

Bro. Randy,

Truthfully, I don't see that is my battle at all. There are some men of God/Pastors who are aware that they aren't called, or able to counsel due to lack of knowledge regarding mental illness, maybe time constraints or they aren't very good listeners. Then there are those men of God/Pastors who are fully equipped to counsel, enjoy it, and recognize the need for it. Regardless...this is not my conflict.

The problem is I call them like I see them. I will not excuse a Pastor's behavior because he is Pastor. I have no problem submitting to the authority over me...but it isn't all Pastors, or all men...It is only my Pastor and my husband that I will submit to. This forum is not a place where I think, "Oh this one is a Pastor so I will have to respect him and pat him on the back when he says something that is irresponsible or contrary to my belief system." I can respectfully disagree...but when they attack me, which happens quite often then I have to call them idiots.. I have red hair...duh!

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A part of counsel is the nuetrality one needs when dealing with folks who are hurting.... if you go into the conversation with bias isn't that a disservice to those you are offering advice too??

and I am not being mean nor flippant just asking

??

We are taught in school to be aware of our biases...and when they are in conflict then we are to get peer supervision and be careful not to transfer our feeling onto the client...this is true...but notice the post in question: how I said that the Pastor was sincere, but many people do not know how to address a situation and instead of saying, "I don't know they come up with a...read it in the Bible" answer. ]paraphrased] Now if I really wanted to show bias, I would have said..."All Pastors are jerks and have no knowledge of counseling and it would be better to go to a licensed counselor". But what I said...anyone who loves God can be trained to counsel...and then gave helps to those who may need it...and even gave a list of people that could be helped: Sunday School Superintendent, Youth Ministry leaders, Pastors and Pastor's wives. I also said you could be a great Christian Counselor without ever studying it in college...I think some of you men only hear what you want to hear and use it to prove Rhoni has bias where there is none!I hope this clears it up...but probably not and you will address it again and again..and I will post the same things again and again.

Blessings, Rhoni