Have You Been to WWPF Lately?

[Balanced]

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

I and my WPF pastor has agreed that there are some good things on tv, however you have to wade through the much bad to get to the little good;

At a youth camp earlier this week Bro. Mark Copeland had a box of garbage. He had filled it by dumping a garbage can into the box. He had the kids come up and look in it and they were all holding their noses from the smell.

He mentioned that there were some good things on TV just as there were some good things in the box of garbage. He then dug in the box and found a slightly over ripe banana. He took out the banana and proceeded to peel it as the kids were grossing out. He explained that it was still in the peeling and the banana itself hadn't touched the garbage.

He then took a bite of the banana and the kids really grossed out then. As he threw the banana back into the box he said "'The next time I want a banana I will get it from the grocery store"


Why did though the trash to get the good if you can just get the good somewhere else?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Balanced

At a youth camp earlier this week Bro. Mark Copeland had a box of garbage. He had filled it by dumping a garbage can into the box. He had the kids come up and look in it and they were all holding their noses from the smell.

He mentioned that there were some good things on TV just as there were some good things in the box of garbage. He then dug in the box and found a slightly over ripe banana. He took out the banana and proceeded to peel it as the kids were grossing out. He explained that it was still in the peeling and the banana itself hadn't touched the garbage.

He then took a bite of the banana and the kids really grossed out then. As he threw the banana back into the box he said "'The next time I want a banana I will get it from the grocery store"






Why did though the trash to get the good if you can just get the good somewhere else?

Couldn't that same example apply to a computer?

[Brad Murphy]

Originally Posted by Sam

Couldn't that same example apply to a computer?

Shhhhhh! It's not a windmill, it's a dragon!

[Balanced]

Originally Posted by Sam

Couldn't that same example apply to a computer?

Actually, no. I think the comparing of TV and Internet is bunk. theoldpaths made a good point in and earlier post.

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

The problem I had when I experimented outside of the UPC/WPF was that you could find a decent program to watch, but then a commercial comes on with a half-naked woman advertising bras; etc.

You really can't control TV. Even good programs have bad commercial or advertisements for other programs that are bad. Then when the good program is over the next programs starts without you doing anything, and it might not be a good program.

On the Internet I have to choose every website I go to. My filter blocks inappropriate content. Even inappropriate banner ads are blocked. Most pop-ups are also blocked. Usually when someone is having lots of problems with pop-ups it is caused by spyware.

Then there is the issue of TV being passive vs. Internet being active.


"You watch television to turn your brain off and you work on your computer when you want to turn your brain on."
-- Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple Computer and Pixar, in Macworld Magazine, February 2004

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by Balanced

Actually, no. I think the comparing of TV and Internet is bunk. theoldpaths made a good point in and earlier post.



You really can't control TV. Even good programs have bad commercial or advertisements for other programs that are bad. Then when the good program is over the next programs starts without you doing anything, and it might not be a good program.

On the Internet I have to choose every website I go to. My filter blocks inappropriate content. Even inappropriate banner ads are blocked. Most pop-ups are also blocked. Usually when someone is having lots of problems with pop-ups it is caused by spyware.

Then there is the issue of TV being passive vs. Internet being active.


"You watch television to turn your brain off and you work on your computer when you want to turn your brain on."
-- Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple Computer and Pixar, in Macworld Magazine, February 2004

My concern is that this technology (internet) is not going away. And I, as a parent, have to learn how to decipher things, and teach my children how to use the tools available to them, for educational purposes and not use technology (tv, internet) for entertainment. My responsibility is to my children. And I am honestly seeking anwers to how we wll educate, and not seem hypocritical. I belonged to a church that taught against tv. (UPC) Thats where God planted me and established me in the Apostles doctrine. God chose to put me there. I will not go back to having tv in my house. Tv is for what.. everything I need is on line. I know internet is potentially much worse then tv. That fact does not let me rationalize against the 14 yrs. I was taught against tv. Our Church pulled from the UPC, we are in fellowship with the WPF out of Tulsa. I know many oneness churches have not taught against tv.. and I do not judge them saints at all. I appreciate AFF (usually).
I honestly don't like the contention. Anyways... my thoughts. God bless.
TR

[CC1]

Lets cut out all this chit chat and get down to the serious business at Tulsa. I want to know from some of you folks who went and can give first hand accounts - Did they actually forbid everybody from smiling in pictures or did that just come natural for these folks?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by CC1

Lets cut out all this chit chat and get down to the serious business at Tulsa. I want to know from some of you folks who went and can give first hand accounts - Did they actually forbid everybody from smiling in pictures or did that just come natural for these folks?

Careful, now.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by CC1

Lets cut out all this chit chat and get down to the serious business at Tulsa. I want to know from some of you folks who went and can give first hand accounts - Did they actually forbid everybody from smiling in pictures or did that just come natural for these folks?

I was at the meeting. A bit somber maybe. It was a serious meeting, a lot of people were hurt that it had to come down to leaving the upci. The guy taking the pictures was hired by the upc. j/k

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

I was at the meeting. A bit somber maybe. It was a serious meeting, a lot of people were hurt that it had to come down to leaving the upci. The guy taking the pictures was hired by the upc. j/k

Tim becareful now, you get to funny the WPF may not let you attend their meetings.


=)

[TCSQ]

Originally Posted by CC1

Lets cut out all this chit chat and get down to the serious business at Tulsa. I want to know from some of you folks who went and can give first hand accounts - Did they actually forbid everybody from smiling in pictures or did that just come natural for these folks?

I think someone already mentioned the obvious, but here goes again. I was there and NO no one was forbidden to smile, (And yes I DO know you were being facetious) but you must keep in mind that to most of these people the very core that they had built their lives around, The United Pentecostal Church was something that for each individual there , there was an individual reason that they felt absolutely unable to continue with it any longer. And so many of them find themselves in a vacuum, trying desperately to make sense of what has happened.


I have heard people (again I have an official of the UPC as my house guest for a season and he is MOST vocal about his opinion concerning the happenings in the Western District that he is part of) ) and they feel that it was ALL political. That seems rather simplistic to me as while there are undoubtedly those who WERE motivated SOLELY and COMPLETELY by political ambition, (Can YOU say Nate Wilson?) most of the "little" guys were there more from disgust with the organization that had for decades in some cases and lifetimes in others, so completely held their loyalties.

Its really sad, and yet its not and then it is again. because some of us feel so caught between Egypt and the Promised land and feel that we are being held back from really going over EN MASSE into the land that our forefathers only beheld from far off. And so it appears to some of us that God is beginning the business of smashing the boxes that men have built over the past hundred years of this revival, and what happens???? A bunch of people break out of one box and immediately seek to begin construction on another!

Its sad all the way around.