Amen.
When one sees how that differs from "Do what thou wilt,"
which Discernment will supply, then the Holy Spirit
can be honored. To reply to this;
"All things are permissable for me..."
this doesn't give anyone with the proper premises
some license to sin or anything--
Heck, who needs one? We already have a license to sin,
it's called "free will."
You expose your premises in your actions, yes?
Since, surely, any post, any speech,
can be misrepresented from either end?
If all things are permissible for you, then nothing is a sin.
...that follows the Holy Spirit, I agree.
This also makes things a sin that aren't even listed;
and makes blindly following some list, even one in Scripture,
over the guidance of the Holy Spirit a sin.
...that follows the Holy Spirit, I agree.
This also makes things a sin that aren't even listed;
and makes blindly following some list, even one in Scripture,
over the guidance of the Holy Spirit a sin.
We have Scripture for this.
What in the world are you trying to say?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
A current reflection I see here is the "pork" thing. Now, you can read those verses in Acts, throw in a little sideways-action from Peter on the roof, and determine that pork is now magically ok for you to eat--and blithely counsel others the same; or you can recognize that what is being counseled is Grace toward those who eat pork, in ignorance--don't let the fact that they eat pork interfere with the Holy Spirit.
A current reflection I see here is the "pork" thing. Now, you can read those verses in Acts, throw in a little sideways-action from Peter on the roof, and determine that pork is now magically ok for you to eat--and blithely counsel others the same; or you can recognize that what is being counseled is Grace toward those who eat pork, in ignorance--don't let the fact that they eat pork interfere with the Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009
"Don't make a puzzle out of a piece."
You have said before that all things are lawful for you, in agreement with Paul. You have also mentioned at least one thing (killing) that is not lawful for you. If you continue to stand by both of these statements, we can no longer trust any attempts by you to give us a logical argument for anything. They are contradictory statements, and there is no way to reconcile them. Saying not all things are expedient, in particular, does not reconcile them. Saying not all things edify does not reconcile them.
So, which of these two statements is true? They cannot both be true. Pick one.
1. All things are lawful for you.
2. Some things are not lawful for you.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
You have said before that all things are lawful for you, in agreement with Paul. You have also mentioned at least one thing (killing) that is not lawful for you. If you continue to stand by both of these statements, we can no longer trust any attempts by you to give us a logical argument for anything. They are contradictory statements, and there is no way to reconcile them. Saying not all things are expedient, in particular, does not reconcile them. Saying not all things edify does not reconcile them.
So, which of these two statements is true? They cannot both be true. Pick one.
1. All things are lawful for you.
2. Some things are not lawful for you.
Ok, well all this assumes that the Holy Spirit is in residence,
and as to your "you can't kill" thing,
I've already admitted that even though you
essentially violate the Spirit with this "exception,"
there would be cases in which killing
would be the Spiritual thing to do;
we even recog them, like universally?
"Put it out of its misery" etc.