Breaking News -- Governor Palin's Daughter

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Pray for me. Hussein O. is a double dog dirt bag.

Tim, the next time you come on this forum beating the drum about "holiness" ... just consider that posts like these really don't enhance your credibility at all.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

. . . with maggots on top!





Why don't you tell us how you really feel?????

Now lets not be cruel.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Aquila, I'm going to speak plainly here: you're such a hypocrite. You speak harshly and use personal insults in referring to other people... you're one of the worst name-callers on this forum, but you're so sensitive about what you see as "personal insults" toward you??
Get a grip, dude.
And grow up.

Bro. Obama's been called a Muslim, a baby killer, scum, and worse...very personal statements. That means anyone can say anything about McCain too. But here's the deal....when some one wants to take it personal, let's not lie about it....it's called going personal.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Tim, the next time you come on this forum beating the drum about "holiness" ... just consider that posts like the one you just made don't really enhance your credibility at all.

I have absolutley no apprehension calling Hussein O. what he is. I apologize to a degree if the terminology offends you. I did not mean to offend. Lets just call him, a queer loving baby killer. If that offends you. You'll get over it. And I'm not offended if you put me on ignore.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Aquila

That's not exactly what he said. The point was that he'd much rather she have a choice than be forced by the government to have a baby.

That IS exactly what he said. He may have meant something slightly different, as you are inferring, but he did say:

"Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old," he said. "I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."

In context, it sounds more like he doesn't want to see them bearing the consequences of their actions, if they don't have to. Or, at least, not forced by the government to bear those consequences.

My disagreement with him, even using your spin on his comments, would be twofold:

First, consequences are not always a bad thing, and we don't compound bad choices by adding more bad choices (murder). It is wrong to make immoral choices in order to avoid the consequences of previous bad behavior. (Obviously immoral choices are always immoral, but many liberals act as if there are certain circumstances in which it is excusable.) I do NOT want to teach my children to avoid the consequences of their bad behavior, but rather to FACE the consequences. So I disagree with him as a parent.

Secondly, the government SHOULD deny citizens the right or choice to commit criminal acts, such as murder. Which means...I disagree with Mr. Obama's stance on government involvement.

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Tim, the next time you come on this forum beating the drum about "holiness" ... just consider that posts like these really don't enhance your credibility at all.

Have you also traded influence for sweetheart real estate deals with shady characters, or are you just another communist sympathizer?

Where's the beef? Is Obama or is he not trying to convince America that he's something that he's not?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

dude, this was the context. it has been played repeatedly on TV.

I want the paragraph where he said the statement so I can conclude if what you're saying is true. I bet you don't even know what the entire statement was about. Remember, the context when dealing with abortion for pro choice people is "government involvement". To have the government force a woman to give birth is something most prochoice people reject. That doesn't mean they unequivocally support abortion in every instance. Must pro choice people see this as government punishing women by forcing them to give birth by government edict. It doesn't mean that pregnancy or giving birth is a punishment. It's tied to governmental penalties and controls over an individual and the most intimate and difficult choices they may ever make.

So...I would just appreciate knowing what his entire statement was and the context of the question and/or discussion.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Just a side note (and unrelated to anything in particular in this thread)

a crybaby alert is hereby in effect, it is possible that posts will be reported as resident crybabies can dish but cannot take...

No, fear. I've not reported anyone. When I report though...I'll typically warn.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

It's a fact attack!

Hussein Obama is a dirt bag.

So's McCain. They're all dirt bags. At least Obama has the human decency to stay with his wife and kids. McCain is a scum bag that abandoned his FAMILY. Can't do that bro. I know Obama's a liberal and I disagree with him on some things....but he's faithful to family. I respect that far more than McCain's dead beat example of a husband and father. And frankly, he's admitted that it was his greatest moral failure. And McCain picking Mrs. Pretty Pentecostal is the most blatant pander on earth.

I think, judging by his track record, that he just enjoys having power over women half his age.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Great!


Have you told anyone about Jesus today?

????????

What on earth kind of question is that?