Are Apostolics Wise?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I didn't say they created a shooter! Neither did I say they encouraged the shooter to commit crimes. Nor am I saying they are 'bad' people. I am saying that they came here with an underhanded agenda. I feel sorry for them and their inability to get past their bad experiences with some pentecostals.

No you didn't. I went from responding to you to just speaking in general. Some one (I forget who) on the deleted thread had said words to that effect about the "ex-PC" forum.

Sorry for the apparent confusion. I'll try and be more specific with my confusion in the future.

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by pelathais

No you didn't. I went from responding to you to just speaking in general. Some one (I forget who) on the deleted thread had said words to that effect about the "ex-PC" forum.

Sorry for the apparent confusion. I'll try and be more specific with my confusion in the future.

Thanks guys for the hijack...still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with wisdom from above. Maybe I need some wisdom to figure that out. lol

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Yes, there is that.

And then there is the fact that Daniel Alicea has invited a slew of his little buddies over here as well.

Who are these "slew" of friends, PP, that I've invited here?

Seriously this is more hysterical hormonal hyperbole. <<< [that there was unintended alliteration]

I've invited/referred a childhood friend in Jeff [J-Roc], my sister Darcie, James Griffin [friend and NCO compatriot] and one other poster who has registered but has never posted. I also assisted in making sure RevBuddy's [UPCI minister and family friend] registration was processed ... upon his request.

The more you obfuscate and try to marginalize me ... the more you make yourself out to be a radical temperamental poster who can no longer taken seriously.

Please clarify who these slew of friends are ... I'm sure we'd all like to hear a good conspiracy theory.

Get real ... get help.

[pelathais]

Hey, no problemo Sharpie! Your thread struck me a being something of a cynical swipe at OP's that was based upon the thread I had started to try and bring a little laughter and goodness into their lives. Judge my attitudes accordingly.

But to get you back on "topic" here, consider that Wisdom "goes crying in the street" seeking those who would follow "her." This gives me the idea that wisdom is found as one journeys and gains experience. We need to learn from our experiences and the experiences of others. We don't have to make all of the mistakes ourselves.

But to have the wisdom needed to gain wisdom in the first place requires that we listen, and not be always dictating the terms of the discussion. Listen to others. Learn from their experiences. It could be that you're overlooking a vast store of wisdom that is right under your nose.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

I don't really plan on posting further, defending myself or apologizing... I will just say I never lied and was one of the first ones to speak up on several occassions that I was a member at both sites... in fact, I found the original FCF through that site. Between various incarnations of FCF, NFCF and AFF, I have accumulated well over 4000 posts total between those forums while having somewhere around 600 total over 5 years on the ex-pentecostal site.

I still have not even seen the PRIVATE posts from those forums which were posted here, I have only heard about them... so I am not even sure what to apologize for... I'm sure I've written worse than whatever the dishonest person (from here) who was digging for stuff posted over here... but I imagine they are not much different than the manner in which I posted here, except it being a private forum, I could name names... and I believe posts where I was laughing about my ban being revoked after only a few hours were listed here too from what I heard. Some of the posts that I was quoted were posts that I posted directly on this forum and not just in the private forum over there.

I had already pretty much decided to stop posting when several people blamed the members of the ex-pen site for the Colorado shooter... I could use the same logic to blame this site for Nathan robbing the bank.... or blame Christianity as a whole for abortion clinic bombings, but I won't. That logic just makes me sick and I see no further sense in having anything to do with these forums... which is a shame since it was pretty much my only interaction with pentecostals except at family gatherings.

So, that's where I am... and where I went.

I have never lied here about who I am... although I have downplayed the intense dislike I have towards the Apostolic culture... but if that wasn't already transparent, then... I don't know what to tell you. The only alt I have here is Don Quixote, which I created as a joke... you will not find me posting under any other name here. I have no reason to hide behind alternate screen names.

I asked this very same question ... in the deleted thread ... Brad has been around from the beginning ... eliminating this Taliban-style accusation that he's a plant.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Thad

It was discovered just this week that There's a group of folks here that are plants from the Expentecostal forum.

Who is this group??? Have you joined the kookfringers too??? Shelitie is a senior member of the FCF forums .... leaving this "group" to being Timmy and CB1 ... who apparently still was a member of the ExPentecostal forum before he "broke the non-story".

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Thad

Well I perfer the balance and mix of what the forum has always represented.

Dan, don't tilt the forum too far the left. I wouldn't want the cons tilting it to nothing but hardline either.

Dan,The cons will feel threatend and leave if it gets out of balanced. we've dealt with that many times before.

those ExPentecostal plants are too much - they've even helped to create a crazed mass muderer

Do you think I wield that much influence here, Thaddy?

The last bolded statement may be the most ignorant thing you've ever posted. Well ... take it back .... a strong second behind PP's remarks in this thread.

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Hey, no problemo Sharpie! Your thread struck me a being something of a cynical swipe at OP's that was based upon the thread I had started to try and bring a little laughter and goodness into their lives. Judge my attitudes accordingly.

But to get you back on "topic" here, consider that Wisdom "goes crying in the street" seeking those who would follow "her." This gives me the idea that wisdom is found as one journeys and gains experience. We need to learn from our experience and the experience of others. We don't have to make all of the mistakes ourselves.

But to have the wisdom needed to gain wisdom in the first place requires that we listen, and not be always dictating the terms of the discussion. Listen to others. Learn from their experiences. It could be that you're overlooking a vast store of wisdom that is right under your nose.

I agree, I too have been a recipient of many who have paved the way, learned from others as they were gracious to share with me their experiences.

I was not swiping OP, I was really interested in knowing if Pentecostals sought for the gift of wisdom as they would seek for the gift of healing, miracles, prophecy, discernment, etc. I know many preachers who would fast for days for the gift of healing or prophecy, yet I have never heard anyone seek the gift of wisdom.

My point is why aren't we? Why do young preachers seek after healing or prophecy and never wisdom? I think wisdom from above is critical to taking care of God's people. More than the other gifts.

Could it be that prophecy or healing elevates the flesh? Yet wisdom glorifies God?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Yes, there is that.

And then there is the fact that Daniel Alicea has invited a slew of his little buddies over here as well.

You have taken a rather cynical turn for the worse recently, PP. Just my observation. You've been angry and lashing out at folks. One day you started a whole string of threads that were all rather sour in mood.

About that same time the whole UPCI fellowship seemed to have become something unpleasant for you. What gives?

Oh, and I'm not one of DA's "minions." I planted the user name here before I started to post as a way to kind of "break the ice." In fact, I am DA and a member of the Moravian Brethren seeking to convert all Oneness Pentecostals to our simple ways of Christian unity and love. I just made up all of that stuff about my "dad" being a preacher and NYC and other stuff to mess with ya.

My "slew of little buddies" include Unregistered. And this is one poster you don't want to mess with.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by staysharp

I agree, I too have been a recipient of many who have paved the way, learned from others as they were gracious to share with me their experiences.

I was not swiping OP, I was really interested in knowing if Pentecostals sought for the gift of wisdom as they would seek for the gift of healing, miracles, prophecy, discernment, etc. I know many preachers who would fast for days for the gift of healing or prophecy, yet I have never heard anyone seek the gift of wisdom.

My point is why aren't we? Why do young preachers seek after healing or prophecy and never wisdom? I think wisdom from above is critical to taking care of God's people. More than the other gifts.

Could it be that prophecy or healing elevates the flesh? Yet wisdom glorifies God?

Excellent thoughts!