Initial evidence

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Does Jesse believe you get all the gifts at once?

Listen from 32:13 - 33:41

https://youtu.be/9gvxwNppxgg?si=L_ZVau1nGwqBjq4x

After talking about the nine spiritual gifts he says
When you are filled with the Spirit without exception you will manifest a gift

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Listen from 32:13 - 33:41

https://youtu.be/9gvxwNppxgg?si=L_ZVau1nGwqBjq4x

After talking about the nine spiritual gifts he says
When you are filled with the Spirit without exception you will manifest a gift

He believes its an "evidence" not an initial evidence.

But what is this teaching that we are all members of the twelve tribes of Israel? But, we just don't know it?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

He believes its an "evidence" not an initial evidence.

But what is this teaching that we are all members of the twelve tribes of Israel? But, we just don't know it?

He teaches that one of the nine gifts of the Spirit Will manifest as initial evidence when you receive the Spirit. And he also says that it seems to mostly be the gift of tongues. go figure. Jesse White was raised Apostolic and his best friend and second in command is 5th generation Apostolic. It's hard to understand where the teaching came from. I can hear people now, that's the word of wisdom!!!! You've got the Holy Ghost!!!! (Shouts hair down)

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And, because the tribes were scattered among the nations, they are indistinguishable from the gentiles. So we could be of the lost sheep of the house of Israel or just gentiles, it's kind of irrelevant either way.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

He teaches one of the nine gifts of the Spirit Will manifest as initial evidence when you receive the Spirit.

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And, because the tribes were scattered among the nations, they are indistinguishable from the gentiles. So we could be of the lost sheep of the house of Israel or just gentiles, it's kind of irrelevant either way.

A while back, a brother mentioned to me he really never paid much attention to genealogy in the Bible. My reply was that it definitely shows. He later came to understand how important lineage was to the Biblical narrative. Because the lack of teaching concerning lineage, many individuals get lost why Israel paid so much attention to genealogical details. Brother Jesse is another well meaning soul who also misses the mark. Therefore coming up with a teaching that we are somehow unknowingly related to the tribes? Yet, Bible lineage doesn't work that way. Or else the requirements found in Ezra and Nehemiah would be meaningless. Matthew 15:24 is referring to the Northern Kingdom of Israel. Yet, all Israel was to be saved, as explained by Paul the Apostle in Romans 11. Which isn't just made up of Judeans, and Samaritans. But all the Diaspora spread throughout the known Roman world. Plus the Roman world themselves. My dear Brother Jesse misses it as much as Joseph Smith misses John 10:16. Therefore interpreting it as Jesus speaking to the Nephite and Lamanites in the Americas. Also how Mormons believe they are of the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. British Israelism also teaches that the 12 tribes migrated into Europe and became mingled with the Anglo Saxons. Its movement was in the 1880s, and made its way into early Pentecostalism. Joseph Smith, World Wide Church of God, some Branhamites, believe in British Israelism as well.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

A while back, a brother mentioned to me he really never paid much attention to genealogy in the Bible. My reply was that it definitely shows. He later came to understand how important lineage was to the Biblical narrative. Because the lack of teaching concerning lineage, many individuals get lost why Israel paid so much attention to genealogical details. Brother Jesse is another well meaning soul who also misses the mark. Therefore coming up with a teaching that we are somehow unknowingly related to the tribes? Yet, Bible lineage doesn't work that way. Or else the requirements found in Ezra and Nehemiah would be meaningless. Matthew 15:24 is referring to the Northern Kingdom of Israel. Yet, all Israel was to be saved, as explained by Paul the Apostle in Romans 11. Which isn't just made up of Judeans, and Samaritans. But all the Diaspora spread throughout the known Roman world. Plus the Roman world themselves. My dear Brother Jesse misses it as much as Joseph Smith misses John 10:16. Therefore interpreting it as Jesus speaking to the Nephite and Lamanites in the Americas. Also how Mormons believe they are of the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. British Israelism also teaches that the 12 tribes migrated into Europe and became mingled with the Anglo Saxons. Its movement was in the 1880s, and made its way into early Pentecostalism. Joseph Smith, World Wide Church of God, some Branhamites, believe in British Israelism as well.

I have heard somewhere that British Israelism became Christian Nationalism in the good ol USA. Or at least a first cousin of it. It’s possible that the British in British Israelism turned off the USA patriots causing it to go through a renovation and rebranding. I’m not sure.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

He teaches that one of the nine gifts of the Spirit Will manifest as initial evidence when you receive the Spirit. And he also says that it seems to mostly be the gift of tongues. go figure. Jesse White was raised Apostolic and his best friend and second in command is 5th generation Apostolic. It's hard to understand where the teaching came from. I can hear people now, that's the word of wisdom!!!! You've got the Holy Ghost!!!! (Shouts hair down)

Its part of the early Pentecostalism. In Azusa Street they believed barking like a dog, or oinking like a pig was the Holy Ghost.

Yet, these brothers know the Bible backward and forwards. Only Jesus can lead us. We just need to take a break from being an Apostle Bishop Elder Minister Prelate, in order to hear the still small voice of the One and Only Potentate.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

I have heard somewhere that British Israelism became Christian Nationalism in the good ol USA. Or at least a first cousin of it. It’s possible that the British in British Israelism turned off the USA patriots causing it to go through a renovation and rebranding. I’m not sure.

There is British Israelism, and Ethiopian Israelism. Both ended up splitting into supremacists' ideologies. Black Israelites teach they are of the tribes of Israel, as well as some White Nationalist groups.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Finding the Lost Sheep of Israel - Foundation 8 (Part 1)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCNrfGPdtTQ

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Its part of the early Pentecostalism. In Azusa Street they believed barking like a dog, or oinking like a pig was the Holy Ghost.

What!?

[Amanah]

The teaching l have the most questions about is the last episode of the series where he explains Rev 20-22.

Some people get resurrected to immortality at the 1st resurrection to be the government, then at the second resurrection others also get in but are mortal and end up having to eat leaves outside of the City.

https://www.youtube.com/live/X77HY5c...EZZdNn3r6LQoZ9

Feel sorry for the leaf eaters.

So there are three possible endings
* Resurrected to immortality to rule and reign
* Resurrected to mortality as a citizen under the immortal government, depending on the govt to feed you leaves
* Annihilation


Linked above is the live version from last night, so it might disappear for editing.