Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine - Page 14

mfblume · #**131** 10-19-2015, 01:52 PM

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God never had any physical kingdom. never will.

Mike, that is a pretty big statement you just made, which flies in the face of hundreds of prophetical passages to the contrary.

That is your statement, and you are sticking by it?

If that is true that you believe it, then the only explanation for these hundreds of passages is connected to replacement theology, with the invisible kingdom replacing(church) the future literal kingdom.

For the umpteenth time I REJECT REPLACEMENT theology. The bible teaches there is NO PHYSICAL KINGDOM.

Physical things are VISIBLE things. Jesus said the KINGDOM DOES NOT COME WITH OBSERVATION. He said IT CANNOT BE SEEN. I told you this very same point many many times before, also.

Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: (21) Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Never SHALL anyone say the kingdom is there or it is here. IT IS NOT VISIBLE. You cannot observe it. If it is going to be physical one day in the future, then Jesus would NOT have said NO ONE SHALL SAY IT IS HERE or THERE.

Nothing replaces a future physical kingdom. If there IS NO FUTURE PHYSICAL kingdom coming then how can you replace it?

The ONLY kingdom that was prophesied was the INVISIBLE spiritual kingdom THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW.

Sean · #**132** 10-19-2015, 03:09 PM

You are steeped in replacement theology Mike, whether you think so or not. I see your posts and how you think one thing is used in place of another in meaning, regarding Israel and the church, etc., again and again.

mfblume · #**133** 10-19-2015, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

You are steeped in replacement theology Mike, whether you think so or not. I see your posts and how you think one thing is used in place of another in meaning, regarding Israel and the church, etc., again and again.

I cannot talk with you because I explain what replacement theology is and how I do not believe it, and then I tell you what I actually believe, and you ignore everything I said. That. along with me telling you for months that I believe in a future second coming and then you only get it today. I just cannot talk with you. I do not know why you cannot read what i say and make me repeat it all.

But you surely do not read what I say and so you actually become a liar when you accuse me of things I do not even believe.

The church DID NOT REPLACE ANYTHING. ISRAEL was the church for 3 years after the cross AND GENTILES JOINED THEM.

But you will keep misreading everything. So I cannot talk to you. I thought we had some hope today when you FINALLY got what I said about the second coming. But then you DID IT ALL OVER AGAIN when I distinctly said the second coming is when death is destroyed, and you thought I believed death was destroyed at the cross.

Nobody can talk to you. you cannot follow what we say. And then you turn around like this post here now, and flatly lie about my belief.

I cannot talk to you.

Sean · #**134** 10-19-2015, 03:23 PM

I watch your posts carefully, for "metaphors"....beware of R.T. man Mike, it is in you and want to reveal the beliefs of R.T. man.

I am WATCHING you!

mfblume · #**135** 10-19-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

I watch your posts carefully, for "metaphors"....beware of R.T. man Mike, it is in you and want to reveal the beliefs of R.T. man.

I am WATCHING you!

Here's another example of how impossible it is to talk to you./ You quoted what metaphors are and they are literary statements. A bird is like a sweet wind passing by. And we never said we used metaphors. But you keep saying we use metaphors after you quoted metaphors are not even what we use at all, nor claim, and go against the very thing you quoted.

You are impossible to discuss things with.

Sean · #**136** 10-19-2015, 03:26 PM

Preterists simply teach that Israel was burnt to a crisp and the church inherits their promises...that is REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY.

mfblume · #**137** 10-19-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Preterists simply teach that Israel was burnt to a crisp and the church inherits their promises...that is REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY.

You are a liar. Jerusalem was burned, liar. And the church only had ISRAELITES in it for the first three years and Gentiles JOINED THEM. Not replaced them. You sir are a classic liar./

Sean · #**138** 10-19-2015, 04:11 PM

Preterists teach this....

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the TEMPLE shall pass away with a great noise, and the LAW shall melt with fervent heat, the JEWS also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the TEMPLE being on fire shall be dissolved, and the LAW shall melt with fervent heat?

Sean · #**139** 10-19-2015, 04:12 PM

All preterists teach that!

Sean · #**140** 10-19-2015, 04:19 PM

I see you teach it too, Mike.

I am sure it is taught in those secret preterist rooms though.