Moving "forward"?????

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Define Preferences. My leadership standard is not a preference, it is a mandate. To be used, I demand adherence.

The manual has no such mandate. The issues mentioned are preferences. The only exclusion is television ownership by ministers.

So, Dear Friend, you will need to try harder next time.

Good try though.

Your good kid, your real good. But you'll never be good enough.

Please understand that I am not accusing you! Preferences is nothing more than a pet word for My way or the Highway!

But at the same time these pastors that are excusing themselves from the AS with some absurd disclaimer are a have sent mixed signals to some. It is absolutely hypocritical.

Does the AS also ask that you preach what it stands for as well? I really don't know.

Believe me sir I do not have to try harder. I have witnessed enough hypocritcal inconsistancies in the last 6 years to last a life time. And to say the least has brought me to a point in my life that I never thought I'd be.

You just may be an exception as may be your neighboring sectional brother. I have no problem with a Pastor setting guidelines for his church and his platform. I can wholeheartidly accept that. I do however have a problem with him demanding things from me in my personal life. So if there are disagreements lets just be friends and spare me the months worth of sermons on sin that are aimed in a particular direction.

Set your mandates... and hopefully for you they line up with the word!

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by bishopnl

I also think that there's a difference between belonging to a church and belonging to a ministerial fellowship.

That is a true statement and it could be said this way also:

UPCI!

We are the body of Christ

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Yep. Kutless will be one of the chosen few someday. Of course, he's gonna have to get rid of that one-eyed-debbil first.

Brother I seriously would not count on this. Not in the UPCI. Not unless there is some serious changes in how the saints of God are treated.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Kutless

Brother I seriously would not count on this. Not in the UPCI. Not unless there is some serious changes in how the saints of God are treated.

Kutless, help me understand here. You are a UPCI minister who has a TV and declare you will not give it up?

Or you are a disgruntled saint who will not give it up?

I did not ignore you this weekend here, simply busy with other pressing things on the board.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Kutless, help me understand here. You are a UPCI minister who has a TV and declare you will not give it up?

Or you are a disgruntled saint who will not give it up?

I did not ignore you this weekend here, simply busy with other pressing things on the board.

Saints don't have to give up their TVs ... but are made to think otherwise

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Kutless, help me understand here. You are a UPCI minister who has a TV and declare you will not give it up?

Or you are a disgruntled saint who will not give it up?

I did not ignore you this weekend here, simply busy with other pressing things on the board.

I am a saint with a history of followining idiots.

No I do feel called but will not be a part of hypocrisy.

[Kutless]

Let me add this......I'm not guessing at the hypocrisy I am personally witnessing it. This past weekend I was in a liscensed ministers home and they laughed when I saw the rabbit ears hooked up.

But if I want to wear shorts down to the store or take my wife out to a movie? Be sure and look over your shoulder because the devil chasers are on the look out!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Kutless

Let me add this......I'm not guessing at the hypocrisy I am personally witnessing it. This past weekend I was in a liscensed ministers home and they laughed when I saw the rabbit ears hooked up.
But if I want to wear shorts down to the store or take my wife out to a movie? Be sure and look over your shoulder because the devil chasers are on the look out!

Whoops! Call PETA, that's animal cruelty.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Kutless

I am a saint with a history of followining idiots.

No I do feel called but will not be a part of hypocrisy.

The term "idiot" is deemed by some here as a very stong statement.

I have had my share of bad deals, but I have done what I could to move on. I have always kept my devotions if higher than the local church, or tried to adopt the local church is higher than mine. Seems ok to me to sometimes drive at the speed limit in smaller towns to avoid trouble there also. I cannot say I have ever had issues with a request that a Pastor asked of me. If they are actually interested in moving forward reaching a lost community, hang ups and weird teachings will prove their overall downfall. I have not sat under men who insisted to see my calendar or inspect my closet either. Thank God for this!

Coonskinner has told many times that his ministry made room for itself with very little prodding on his part. This has inspired me to redevote myself to God and allow Him to make the advances.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Whoops! Call PETA, that's animal cruelty.

You know you are right! To make it perfectly legal just rent a seasonal sitcom on DVD.


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