New Tattoos

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by chseeads

I had to look up that chi rho thingy.... If nobody is any smarter than me, that one wouldn't witness to anything....lol

Chi Rho are the two letters of the Greek alphabet that represented the name of Christ in the time of Constantine. The "chi rho" symbol has always been a recognizable symbol of Christianity. I researched it too.

[chseeads]

But until I looked it up it wasn't a recognizable symbol of Christianity to me. lol

[Sherri]

Well, I knew I was opening up a can of worms by being honest on here about my kids. But they are WONDERFUL kids who love God and I would put them up against anyone else's on here or anywhere else in church. I know lots of OP kids who look the perfect part (non cut hair; long denim skirts, etc.), but yet end up unmarried and pregnant, drinking in secret, etc. Looks are not what I judge by; I know my kids' hearts.

I really appreciate what Sis. Alvear, Margie, Newman and some others on here had to say. Thad, I don't like the tattoos, but they are done and I will love my kids just the same. I think it was kind of foolish, but not sinful. I think when they are forty-fifty, they will wish they had not done it. Like I said, I won't even pierce my ears, so this is definitely not something I would approve of. But that is my personal conviction, not theirs. If it was a Biblical mandate, then it would be different. Whoever likened it to living together unmarried made a very stupid comparison as that is definitely spoken against in the Word.

Anyway, it made for good discussion. We will never all agree on anything.

[StillStanding]

One of my daughters got a small rose tatto on her back when she was in college. My son, who is a seargent in the Marines. got a Marine emblem tatoo on one of his shoulders a couple of years ago..

I hate tatoos, and my kids know that I was disapointed when they got theirs. They were adults, so there was nothing I could do. I still love them both very much!

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

One of my daughters got a small rose tatto on her back when she was in college. My son, who is a seargent in the Marines. got a Marine emblem tatoo on one of his shoulders a couple of years ago..

I hate tatoos, and my kids know that I was disapointed when they got theirs. They were adults, so there was nothing I could do. I still love them both very much!

I feel just like you; but I think it's a generational thing more than anything else. Their generation doesn't think anything about it at all.

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Chi Rho are the two letters of the Greek alphabet that represented the name of Christ in the time of Constantine. The "chi rho" symbol has always been a recognizable symbol of Christianity. I researched it too.

I would think they would have used the letters Alpha and Omega, makes more sense to me, but I wasn't around in those days.



ARPH

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

I would think they would have used the letters Alpha and Omega, makes more sense to me, but I wasn't around in those days.



ARPH

Actually, lots of times that the Chi Rho is used, they have the alpha and omega on either side of it. I've seen it with and without. Chi and Rho are the first two letters in the word Christ, in Greek, from what I understood from reading about it. In Constantine's time, it definitely showed someone that you were a follower of Jesus Christ.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Well, I knew I was opening up a can of worms by being honest on here about my kids. But they are WONDERFUL kids who love God and I would put them up against anyone else's on here or anywhere else in church. I know lots of OP kids who look the perfect part (non cut hair; long denim skirts, etc.), but yet end up unmarried and pregnant, drinking in secret, etc. Looks are not what I judge by; I know my kids' hearts.

I really appreciate what Sis. Alvear, Margie, Newman and some others on here had to say. Thad, I don't like the tattoos, but they are done and I will love my kids just the same. I think it was kind of foolish, but not sinful. I think when they are forty-fifty, they will wish they had not done it. Like I said, I won't even pierce my ears, so this is definitely not something I would approve of. But that is my personal conviction, not theirs. If it was a Biblical mandate, then it would be different. Whoever likened it to living together unmarried made a very stupid comparison as that is definitely spoken against in the Word.

Anyway, it made for good discussion. We will never all agree on anything.

That's fair enough and respectable. the way i took your initial post is that you are fine with other christians tattooing just not something you would do. I think this is where we may differ. pretty soon we will reason that a little smoking,while it's not something we would do, is not adviseable but not a sin, and drinking too, and gambling, and dancing etc. pretty soon there are no lines drawn to protect us not necessarily from pleasing God as they often say, but from our own Rotton flesh.
Sherri, I say this carefully, but it appears to me that the folks who left upc Pentecost some 10-15 Years ago, their offspring have or losing complete touch with their spirtual heritage. I know this because there are some who have privately admitted their concerns about it. now, that is not to say that there are parents who are still in UPC whose kids have left, but there is still a connection thru the parents that are still in.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Thad

That's fair enough and respectable. the way i took your initial post is that you are fine with other christians tattooing just not something you would do. I think this is where we may differ. pretty soon we will reason that a little smoking,while it's not something we would do, is not adviseable but not a sin, and drinking too, and gambling, and dancing etc. pretty soon there are no lines drawn to protect us not necessarily from pleasing God as they often say, but from our own Rotton flesh.
Sherri, I say this carefully, but it appears to me that the folks who left upc Pentecost some 10-15 Years ago, their offspring have or losing complete touch with their spirtual heritage. I know this because there are some who have privately admitted their concerns about it. now, that is not to say that there are parents who are still in UPC whose kids have left, but there is still a connection thru the parents that are still in.

I agree with this to a certain extent. My daughter vaguely remembers being in UPC, but not much. My son doesn't even ever remember it and only knows of it through his cousins. They don't consider it their heritage; it is their parent's heritage. To them, UPC means nothing.

Their heritage is what we have taught them, which is primarily balance in all things. We teach them to live holy and pleasing unto God. I will obviously not always agree with their interpretation of what is right or wrong, but that is between them and their Lord. They are adults now. BUT, they are good young people who love God with all their hearts and I trust them to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. They have seen us live a balanced lifestyle and know that we do not adhere to the "greasy grace" principles. My kids are some of the most REAL people in the world. There is no facade with them; you know exactly where they stand on all things and that I respect. I have seen too much of the other.

They would not tell you that smoking or drinking (in moderation), gambling, etc. will send you to hell, and neither would I. But we don't do it because we feel that those things would be weights and not good witnesses. We have taught them that you have to consider others, not just yourselves. As for the tattoos, they don't see anything Biblically wrong with them, and I have no arguments against them through the Word of God. I just personally don't like them.

[rgcraig]

Sherri,

Ashley's walk with God would put some UPC young people to shame and it's sad that most would look at her as being lost.